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Thread: The Monk Temple

  1. #501
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    Luminos Aureus
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    I just got my Relic weapon today, and spent most of my runs in AK today trying to not rip hate from the tank... I'm a little excited about this new weapon of mine.

    Anyway,
    I've been following the rotation
    DK->TS-> Demolish
    DK->TS-> ToD -> Fracture
    DK-> TS -> SP

    I throw in a HF every now and then, but mostly stick to dps / stun emergencies.

    Conversely this puts my survivability up, as I can kill monsters faster than they can kill me. :P
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    Tribunus Augustus
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    Im currently : DK>TS>Demolish/SP and ToD when applicable and throwing in either IDx2 or BS when I can, still on the fence about Fracture and whether it should replace ToD or have all 3 running. But what im doing seems to work so far.
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    Emilia Carraway
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    I've been testing on dummies for awhile, and it may just be the parser not counting dot's correctly, but I do more dps just doing DK > TS > SP from the flank. If I interchange SP and refresh demolish when its down, I parse at 255 dps. If I only do DK > TS > SP from the flank only, with steel peak, and howling fist used during gcd cooldown, the maximum I've gotten with relic is 268 dps. Until there is a reliable parser to prove otherwise, I'm finding demolish and other dots for MNK worthless.
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    Mei Mei
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamienStrife View Post
    I've been testing on dummies for awhile, and it may just be the parser not counting dot's correctly, but I do more dps just doing DK > TS > SP from the flank. If I interchange SP and refresh demolish when its down, I parse at 255 dps. If I only do DK > TS > SP from the flank only, with steel peak, and howling fist used during gcd cooldown, the maximum I've gotten with relic is 268 dps. Until there is a reliable parser to prove otherwise, I'm finding demolish and other dots for MNK worthless.
    There's a more basic reason though.

    Most melees are on stun duty, and I wouldn't even dare do anything but dk-twin-snap (demolish maybe when safe), and feint (every so often to keep it from resisting) to make sure that stun isn't late.

    It's just much easier to do you job when you only need to weave in and out of flanks, and have your fastest animations possible.
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    Soreya Bolde
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    Today I have tried several rotations but at the end it seems that a simple DK - Twin - SP (without Dots or any other skills) rotation deals the most dps. Do not know why ... next week I will adopt an ape to hit 1 2 3 1 2 3 etc.
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    Payne Blackthorne
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    you guys know u cant start with DK right? it doesn't give the mob the DEBUFF lolol
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    Odiato Beake
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerICh View Post
    you guys know u cant start with DK right? it doesn't give the mob the DEBUFF lolol
    Yea it doesn't, but the difference is that it have 150 power on the flank, while bootshine is 130 power, is just about that 20 power more
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  8. #508
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    Asura Strike
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    can some one please tell me why bards are doing same but faster dmg as monks with 3 gl up? also they can use blood for blood and IR wich ives them 500-600 crits and 300 aa crits also instant dots wich are way higher then that from monks
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    Clio Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamienStrife View Post
    I've been testing on dummies for awhile, and it may just be the parser not counting dot's correctly, but I do more dps just doing DK > TS > SP from the flank. If I interchange SP and refresh demolish when its down, I parse at 255 dps. If I only do DK > TS > SP from the flank only, with steel peak, and howling fist used during gcd cooldown, the maximum I've gotten with relic is 268 dps. Until there is a reliable parser to prove otherwise, I'm finding demolish and other dots for MNK worthless.
    I don't see how not using dots yields higher dps. A fully ticked Demolish or ToD or Fracture has higher potency than a SP by over 20%. The math just doesn't add up. The only conclusion is that the parsers are just parsing the dots erroneously.
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    Last edited by kataly; 09-24-2013 at 03:27 AM.

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    depends on what your using it. trash is dead with other dps in about 20 seconds it would be better using BfB or IR for rotation burst without dots. while on targets with high HP dots can be realy good.
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