The Monk Temple

[DerICh]

Yea it doesn't, but the difference is that it have 150 power on the flank, while bootshine is 130 power, is just about that 20 power more

You do know its autocrit from behind right?

[JokingCat]

you need Opo-Opo form for Bootshine to crit wich you dont have if you start your rotation

[Miridori]

You do know its autocrit from behind right?

Even without the form bonus?

[Subucnimorning]

I don't see how not using dots yields higher dps. A fully ticked Demolish or ToD or Fracture has higher potency than a SP by over 20%. The math just doesn't add up. The only conclusion is that the parsers are just parsing the dots erroneously.

You don't even need a parser to show that it makes no sense. Go test on a random mob and add up the dot ticks versus a snap punch (highest potency dd attack).

[Odiato]

You do know its autocrit from behind right?

we'r talking about the start dude, u just start with DK instead of BS since it won't crit anyway.

[cfStatic]

Even without the form bonus?

You need to be in Opo-opo for Bootshine to be auto crit, just like you need to be on Opo-opo for DK to apply the debuff. People start with DK because it's 20 more potency from the flank than Bootshine.

edit: Is it really beneficial to not use either ToD or Fracture? Sure it's one less ability to track, but it should (theoretically) hurt your dps by at least a little..

[Allyrion]

You don't even need a parser to show that it makes no sense. Go test on a random mob and add up the dot ticks versus a snap punch (highest potency dd attack).

I did that. I'm not 50, but the ratios shouldn't be *too* different.
Demolish did roughly 50% more damage than snap punch when both were at GL2.
SP = 123
Demolish = 185

It's the only one I felt like testing. I'm sure ToD does more. Not sure about Fracture. Might test later.

EDIT: Fracture hit in the 90's overall. Fairly low. I'll take it out until more serious theorycrafting happens and we can see where they stand for sure.

[Miridori]

Isnt Fracture 100 potency upfront and 20 DoT over 18s? Theoretically, if all dots tick, the overall dmg is 220 potency while Demolish is 240 and Snap Punch is 180.
Did you include the upfront dmg on your calculation?

[Allyrion]

Isnt Fracture 100 potency upfront and 20 DoT over 18s? Theoretically, if all dots tick, the overall dmg is 220 potency while Demolish is 240 and Snap Punch is 180.
Did you include the upfront dmg on your calculation?

No, I didn't. I'll recheck. I didn't realize that, thanks.

[Teeko]

So I keep hearing about monks using impulse drive in their rotation, but is that while also not taking fracture? Because if I optimally use both, it feels like I just tear through TP even if I use Invigorate.