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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    if you decide you dont want to help out random strangers, then you should not get anything that comes from helping out random strangers...

    kinda common sense...

    its the same for everything in game...

    if you decide you dont want to fight garuda, then you should not get anything that comes from fighting garuda...etc...
    I hope I don't come off as rude and maybe you're not doing it on purpose... It seems to me that you are nitpicking my posts to prove a point instead of addressing the overall picture. You keep taking little snippets of the same post, reblogging just those parts, and only responding to that small piece. The overall point is that this is a temporary fix, and the only way bad attitudes will stop is if SE doesn't coddle the bad players and try to give them treats to be good. They need to tell them this attitude will not be tolerated and measures will be taken otherwise.


    In the end SE is going to do as they like, and we will see how it comes about. All I know is if I coddled my student's when they didn't do their homework, or rewarded them to stop acting out in class and being rude, my classroom would be a mess and my student's would know they could walk all over me. That is not a position I would want to put myself in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    personally, im going to continue to use DF - im not as lucky as you seem to be and dont have friends online everytime i am, so when i would like to run group content when no one i know happens to be online, the DF is a great way for me to be able to do so
    It's not about having them online all the time. Sometimes I wait days and set things up. I make it work so I can be with my friends and help them, and I'm not in a rush to finish things. I would rather wait a few days and do it with my friends, and help and support them. Than rush though it and have to deal with this whole bad attitude DF mess. I don't know what else to tell you... will it help for a while? Maybe. Will it fix the issue? Most likely not. I'd rather SE put the time and effort into something that will fix the issue and not something that will tide it over for the time being.
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    Last edited by KaiKatzchen; 09-23-2013 at 04:08 AM.
    I'm just a bun boy, doing bun boy things.

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    double posted somehow sorry

  3. #132
    Player Crica's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen View Post
    All I know is if I coddled my student's when they didn't do their homework, or rewarded them to stop acting out in class and being rude, my classroom would be a mess and my student's would know they could walk all over me. That is not a position I would want to put myself in.
    i cut posts and reply to things i HAVE a reply to, was obvious to me... /shrug

    and your students are outnumbered, thats why they dont act up =P (IE most students WANT to play by the rules)

    try teaching in ghetto schools.. they are not outnumbered there and they DO act up... (IE most students DONT WANT to play by the rules)

    in DF, no one is really outnumbered, since ONE player can troll the majority
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    Last edited by Crica; 09-23-2013 at 04:12 AM.

  4. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen View Post
    Sometimes I wait days
    the DF is so ppl like me dont HAVE to wait days in order to play group content for a game i pay to play....

    its a very helpful tool for me, i get to play when my friends are online AND when they are offline!!!'

    woot!
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  5. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiKatzchen View Post
    I'd rather SE put the time and effort into something that will fix the issue
    if you knew how to make sure everyone played nice with each other, there would be no wars and peace would rule the world... please do share!! lol...

    trying to help is ALL anyone can do...
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  6. #135
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    Greetings, everyone!

    I'd like to give a brief official overview of the "MVP" system that was announced by Yoshida during TGS, as there is a lot of interest in how this will encourage players to be positive and helpful when using the Duty Finder.

    This system is for groups that get matched in the Duty Finder and cannot be used when you pre-make parties to enter dungeons and other content. Once you clear the content, you'll be able to vote for a player you feel was helpful, positive, and friendly.

    Accumulating these points will allow you to buy companion armor, new mounts, and other exclusive items.

    This system is scheduled to be implemented in patch 2.1, and once further details have been finalized we will be sure to share them with you!
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

  7. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings, everyone!

    I'd like to give a brief official overview of the "MVP" system that was announced by Yoshida during TGS, as there is a lot of interest in how this will encourage players to be positive and helpful when using the Duty Finder.

    This system is for groups that get matched in the Duty Finder and cannot be used when you pre-make parties to enter dungeons and other content. Once you clear the content, you'll be able to vote for a player you feel was helpful, positive, and friendly.

    Accumulating these points will allow you to buy companion armor, new mounts, and other exclusive items.

    This system is scheduled to be implemented in patch 2.1, and once further details have been finalized we will be sure to share them with you!
    Will there also be a "naughty list"? What if a player queues up with less than a full party; will people that joined with you then be able to vote for you?
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    Last edited by Sub-Xero; 10-01-2013 at 03:05 AM.

  8. #137
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    Oh god, it's LoL's honor system. People will speedrun through a dungeon and say, "MVP please. MVP for all."
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  9. #138
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    I don't really think this will really solve the problem, Camate. If all of these rewards are cosmetic like companion armor and such, players will stop caring as soon as they get what they want or they won't care to begin with. The players that are considerate never needed something like this to encourage them to play nice.

    It's a nice gesture, but griefers are probably still going to do what they do.
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  10. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post

    Accumulating these points will allow you to buy companion armor, new mounts, and other exclusive items.
    I gotta say. I don't like this. I mean, I see why you would want to reward people for being voted on as being nice and all, but this completely excludes players who pre-make parties on their own servers now, from obtaining these specific items as quickly as a random joe schmo who wants to queue up by themselves and wait forever (if they are a dps job). Healers and Tanks will be able to take advantage of this system exclusively, if they act helpful and friendly far quicker than any DPS class that does the same exact thing. This is not a good thing. It is not as good as it sounds in theory.
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  11. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings, everyone!

    I'd like to give a brief official overview of the "MVP" system that was announced by Yoshida during TGS, as there is a lot of interest in how this will encourage players to be positive and helpful when using the Duty Finder.

    This system is for groups that get matched in the Duty Finder and cannot be used when you pre-make parties to enter dungeons and other content. Once you clear the content, you'll be able to vote for a player you feel was helpful, positive, and friendly.

    Accumulating these points will allow you to buy companion armor, new mounts, and other exclusive items.

    This system is scheduled to be implemented in patch 2.1, and once further details have been finalized we will be sure to share them with you!
    I'm sure the devs thought of this.. but I want to say it anyways.. lol

    This system will promote more people to use the DF- since these items cant be gained through premades. It may for general people increase friendly play- but there will be some people who still wont care, and it only takes one. I hope SE has considered this one person and how to handle that one person. Since again, it only takes one for all the 7 other players (or in case of crystal tower, all the other 23 players to have a horrible time). At least previous threads have shown that SE doesn't have a stance against players who purposely ruin runs- not saying there needs to be bans but something should probably exist else the positive change might be less than expedited. (placing significant lock out timers for reruns on dungeons that were afk'd, such like that)

    Hopefully you can have that other system in place with this one at the sametime- the one that would reward you for joining content that needed players or a particular class. Since I can imagine the ratio of classes will maintain and DD will be waiting even longer for groups to farm this currency. When perhaps if given the option they would help players do lower level content so long as they can "farm" the currency. When there is a request for a job the player hasn't leveled yet there should a notification recommending you to level it lol.


    Is there a snurble mount in the list? ;P
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-01-2013 at 03:17 AM.

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