random Duty Finder groups - Square Enix attitude solution INC

[WildSnipe]

I foresee a lot of people being overly friendly to the point of being obnoxious hoping to get voted on, or a lot of healers getting voted on because nobody was friendlier than another so I'll just vote on the guy that helped everyone the most without saying a word.

[Rin_Kuroi]

I gotta say. I don't like this. I mean, I see why you would want to reward people for being voted on as being nice and all, but this completely excludes players who pre-make parties on their own servers now, from obtaining these specific items as quickly as a random joe schmo who wants to queue up by themselves and wait forever (if they are a dps job). Healers and Tanks will be able to take advantage of this system exclusively, if they act helpful and friendly far quicker than any DPS class that does the same exact thing. This is not a good thing. It is not as good as it sounds in theory.

Playing a tank or healer is probably the most helpful thing you can do. :P

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

I gotta say. I don't like this. I mean, I see why you would want to reward people for being voted on as being nice and all, but this completely excludes players who pre-make parties on their own servers now, from obtaining these specific items as quickly as a random joe schmo who wants to queue up by themselves and wait forever (if they are a dps job). Healers and Tanks will be able to take advantage of this system exclusively, if they act helpful and friendly far quicker than any DPS class that does the same exact thing. This is not a good thing. It is not as good as it sounds in theory.

If they allow pre made parties, what is to stop ppl from just bringing friends who plan to rate them up for whatever they do? Randomization is the only way to remotely assure that people cannot game the system by bringing in assured rate up party members.

I disagree that only healers/tanks can benefit. I personally find each role's contribution to be important for evaluation. Also, they can create categories according to party role. Helpful [healer, tank, dps] not just merely helpful in general. By creating categories they encourage people to evaluate all helpful roles. I look forward to seeing how it works at least.

[Ecks007]

If they allow pre made parties, what is to stop ppl from just bringing friends who plan to rate them up for whatever they do? Randomization is the only way to remotely assure that people cannot game the system by bringing in assured rate up party members.

I understand that part of it, but many systems have their flaws, that particular (and extremely likely to occur) example is one of that would definitely be a flaw and probably the main reason behind the decision not to do that. I get it.
However..

I disagree that only healers/tanks can benefit. I personally find each role's contribution to be important for evaluation. Also, they can create categories according to party role. Helpful [healer, tank, dps] not just merely helpful in general. By creating categories they encourage people to evaluate all helpful roles. I look forward to seeing how it works at least.

What I am referring to when I say "Healers and Tanks will be able to take advantage of this system exclusively" is that currently (and I don't see this changing ever) Healers and Tanks can queue up with minimal to no wait time and obtain a DF group. Where as a DPS is lucky if they get a queue within 10 minutes of waiting. It can, and usually does take upwards to 20-30 minutes at times for a DPS class to join a DF group and longer still if you continually get in a queue only to have someone who queued up and got accepted drop out of the queue, therefor resetting your queue (albeit you are still at the top of the queue). I have seen this happen to myself many times and it usually occurs 2-5 times in a row before it replaces the person that is not accepting or is rejecting the queue.

In that span of time, a Healer or a Tank will have already queued up and could very well be at the end of a dungeon before a DPS even starts their run. Therefore, Healers and Tanks will gain these MVP points on a much faster scale.

[Fuz]

I gotta say. I don't like this. I mean, I see why you would want to reward people for being voted on as being nice and all, but this completely excludes players who pre-make parties on their own servers now, from obtaining these specific items as quickly as a random joe schmo who wants to queue up by themselves and wait forever (if they are a dps job). Healers and Tanks will be able to take advantage of this system exclusively, if they act helpful and friendly far quicker than any DPS class that does the same exact thing. This is not a good thing. It is not as good as it sounds in theory.

Exactly.

This will never work and will only piss off many people.

[Shougun]

Greetings, everyone!

I'd like to give a brief official overview of the "MVP" system that was announced by Yoshida during TGS, as there is a lot of interest in how this will encourage players to be positive and helpful when using the Duty Finder.

This system is for groups that get matched in the Duty Finder and cannot be used when you pre-make parties to enter dungeons and other content. Once you clear the content, you'll be able to vote for a player you feel was helpful, positive, and friendly.

Accumulating these points will allow you to buy companion armor, new mounts, and other exclusive items.

This system is scheduled to be implemented in patch 2.1, and once further details have been finalized we will be sure to share them with you!

I'm sure the devs thought of this.. but I want to say it anyways.. lol

This system will promote more people to use the DF- since these items cant be gained through premades. It may for general people increase friendly play- but there will be some people who still wont care, and it only takes one. I hope SE has considered this one person and how to handle that one person. Since again, it only takes one for all the 7 other players (or in case of crystal tower, all the other 23 players to have a horrible time). At least previous threads have shown that SE doesn't have a stance against players who purposely ruin runs- not saying there needs to be bans but something should probably exist else the positive change might be less than expedited. (placing significant lock out timers for reruns on dungeons that were afk'd, such like that)

Hopefully you can have that other system in place with this one at the sametime- the one that would reward you for joining content that needed players or a particular class. Since I can imagine the ratio of classes will maintain and DD will be waiting even longer for groups to farm this currency. When perhaps if given the option they would help players do lower level content so long as they can "farm" the currency. When there is a request for a job the player hasn't leveled yet there should a notification recommending you to level it lol.


Is there a snurble mount in the list? ;P

[Reika]

Greetings, everyone!

I'd like to give a brief official overview of the "MVP" system that was announced by Yoshida during TGS, as there is a lot of interest in how this will encourage players to be positive and helpful when using the Duty Finder.

This system is for groups that get matched in the Duty Finder and cannot be used when you pre-make parties to enter dungeons and other content. Once you clear the content, you'll be able to vote for a player you feel was helpful, positive, and friendly.

Accumulating these points will allow you to buy companion armor, new mounts, and other exclusive items.

This system is scheduled to be implemented in patch 2.1, and once further details have been finalized we will be sure to share them with you!

Can I buy my path partner back with the points?

[Psun]

Yeah a duty finder "ranking" would be cool.. that way you would have some warning for how experienced, well respected someone is ... but yeah this also totally excludes non DF players... not sure how you get around that.

[Eekiki]

Greetings, everyone!

I'd like to give a brief official overview of the "MVP" system that was announced by Yoshida during TGS, as there is a lot of interest in how this will encourage players to be positive and helpful when using the Duty Finder.

This system is for groups that get matched in the Duty Finder and cannot be used when you pre-make parties to enter dungeons and other content. Once you clear the content, you'll be able to vote for a player you feel was helpful, positive, and friendly.

Accumulating these points will allow you to buy companion armor, new mounts, and other exclusive items.

This system is scheduled to be implemented in patch 2.1, and once further details have been finalized we will be sure to share them with you!

This doesn't sound like it'll work as intended. Any system that offers publicly visible rewards will be abused left and right.

Why not have something similar to what XBox Live has? After the dungeon you can bring up a list of the people who you were teamed up with. You give them either a thumbs up or thumbs down, and if you give them a thumbs down the duty finder won't put you in a PT with them again. Information would not be publicly accessible. Virtue is supposed to be its own reward, right?

[Shiyo]

Greetings, everyone!

I'd like to give a brief official overview of the "MVP" system that was announced by Yoshida during TGS, as there is a lot of interest in how this will encourage players to be positive and helpful when using the Duty Finder.

This system is for groups that get matched in the Duty Finder and cannot be used when you pre-make parties to enter dungeons and other content. Once you clear the content, you'll be able to vote for a player you feel was helpful, positive, and friendly.

Accumulating these points will allow you to buy companion armor, new mounts, and other exclusive items.

This system is scheduled to be implemented in patch 2.1, and once further details have been finalized we will be sure to share them with you!

I personally NEVER use DF but this change is absolutely fantastic! Thanks so much!