Dark Devices - Phase 1 Exploit

[DivineOracle]

Wow, this thread is seriously still going, i thought OP as well as anyone else in denial with him would realize that it's not an unintended exploit and moved on by now, i am starting to think some people just make drama for attention. as this topic seems to be proving that

[Toystore]

Wow, this thread is seriously still going, i thought OP as well as anyone else in denial with him would realize that it's not an unintended exploit and moved on by now, i am starting to think some people just make drama for attention. as this topic seems to be proving that

Well one side is clearly in denial. I happen to believe it is an exploit, and we'll find out soon enough who is right. I'm hedging my bets that its going to be us.

[DivineOracle]

Well one side is clearly in denial. I happen to believe it is an exploit, and we'll find out soon enough who is right. I'm hedging my bets that its going to be us.

Nothing wrong with thinking you're on the none denial, however there are quite a few FATES that work the same way, they just aren't popular like Dark devices. i understand you and your kind want to be right about this, but i'm afraid your efforts are in vain.

[lordryu]

Dark Devices is a four stage L:49 FATE that spawns in Northern Thanalan. The first phase is poorly designed, allowing players to farm infinitely spawning mobs while completely ignoring the target mobs that spawn near the mine entrance. What results is approximately 14:30 of people spamming AOE and doing nothing else in order to earn anywhere from 10,000 to 200,000 XP depending on the quality (and luck) of their group.

Sounds like you couldnt find any friends to play with and now tattling on the others for getting the funsies. Not cool lil fella

[silentwindfr]

The Dark Devices FATE has a time limit of 15 minutes. Obviously the developers intended this event to be completed in about that much time. Anyone who completes the objectives of this FATE in under 2 or 3 minutes, much less than the intended time limit, is obviously exploiting it for quick Grand Company seal gain.

the time limit is for make sure, fate will not stay up forever. it allows rotation in the fate for avoid... well to be still with the same fate, it allows variety.
in the reality since zerg rush the fate, it barely hold for more of 2-3 minutes.

where people see exploit, it's because the goal of this fate is not kill monster, but to move from A to B. in the case of Dark Device, to move from the entrance of base of the follower of dalamud to the girl you need to "rescue".
here people stop at the first enemy, because they repop really fast and until the end of the fate, people chain them. where the goal is not to kill them. it's an unintended strategy for this FATE, SE didn't expect people to simply kill in chain this monster and get a tons of exp from it (more of 10 times the reward if you are good).

it's an error of game design, a flaw in this sort of FATE, people have found and use it. that make it an exploit.
is not because something is here, that is normally work as intend. in the mmorpg, the tons of program the people must check can lead to that situation.

Do SE will correct it? yeah, i guess sooner than later.
Do SE will punish the one using it? if we was in FF11 yep, now i dunno, personally i don't resort to this.

for finish as customer you have the duty to report any weird thing you found, any flaws you found, any bug you found. using this at your advantage (getting around 10 times the exp you normally should get) is called "exploit". it can and will be severly punished.

but after all everybody is free to believe and do anything, simply don't try to justify it.

[Furious]

People will _ALWAYS_ find the path of least resistance to level as quickly as they can. This is the current method. If it is deemed to be an "exploit", which it is not, then people will find the next fastest and spam that instead.

Trying to FORCE people to do varied content is absolutely ridiculous; some people will always use the fastest method.

As for the practice in question; these are mobs in a game world that also happen to be in a perfect place when there ISN'T a fate going on for grinding for a number of reasons; not the least of which is spiritbonding gear. The players aren't doing anything to force the exploit, and in order to NOT do it they would have to simply stop killing the mobs, which makes no sense. This is NOT an exploit. It may be a bad design issue, which SE will change if they feel it worthwhile, but it is not an exploit.

[Naraku_Diabolos]

How is this an exploit for a Lv49 FATE, when the level cap is Lv50?

[Crashar]

How is this an exploit for a Lv49 FATE, when the level cap is Lv50?

Because to start with, you don't need to be level 49 to do it, you could be level 44 or something and still be raking in the exp.

[DivineOracle]

Because to start with, you don't need to be level 49 to do it, you could be level 44 or something and still be raking in the exp.

Except you get a big exp/seal penalty for being below the actual fate level.

[Selkie]

Wow. I don't even know what FATE this is but some people really need to grow up. Leveling a second combat class to 50 is just a full throttle grind and I'm wagering that's the majority of people utilizing this. So what if they do it slightly faster for a few levels? Does this really reduce quality of life for those people that are morally against grinding mobs? Just go do other FATEs. Who said people have to close the FATE as fast as possible? Why would SE have implemented bonuses for chains if they didn't want you to attempt massive chains? Etc, etc...