Dark Devices - Phase 1 Exploit

[Badger]

Dark Devices is a four stage L:49 FATE that spawns in Northern Thanalan. The first phase is poorly designed, allowing players to farm infinitely spawning mobs while completely ignoring the target mobs that spawn near the mine entrance. What results is approximately 14:30 of people spamming AOE and doing nothing else in order to earn anywhere from 10,000 to 200,000 XP depending on the quality (and luck) of their group.

Any players who attempt to complete the FATE as intended (read: killing Lambs of Dalamud) in a timely manner receive the ire of those exploiting the event, including harassment through tells, shout, and false reports accusing players of botting (amusing since standing in one spot and spamming AOEs is more bot-like behavior than doing a FATE as intended) or RMT spamming.

This is an XP and quality of life exploit on par with "speed runs" of certain L:50 instances and needs to be fixed ASAP. FATEs should encourage players to complete the objectives, but this FATE currently encourages players to ignore the objectives until the last minute.

This needs to be changed so that the mobs only spawn near the target mobs, or that the target mobs charge into the fight as soon as the non-target mobs are engaged. That way this fate can progress as intended. The other three phases of the fate are working as intended.

[neverendingxsin]

Why do you care so much? its not an exploit at all. it would be no different than pulling an entire zone and AOEing them down.


Seriously you people will call ANYTHING that others find as a good way to gain XP as an exploit or something that needs fixing.

[texhnolyze]

so, leveling is fast enough and people still want it to be faster?

i don't think it's an exploit though..

[neverendingxsin]

so, leveling is fast enough and people still want it to be faster?

I believe he wants it to be slower. As if how fast others level effects him at all.

[DivineOracle]

That's not an exploit, in fact there are several FATEs that require you to kill certain enemies to end it. or turn in a certain number of items to end it. all of them are timed as well so it isn't "infinite" just because you probably couldn't get a decent party for it or you want people to spend 10 seconds on every over crowded FATE does not mean it needs fixing, you're like the guy who sees everyone having a good time and you chunk a couple of smoke bombs in the middle of them.

[Dijana]

I dont think its an exploit. The mobs people farm are intentionally placed seperate to the Lambs, and they dont contribute toward completion. I guess it sounds kind of bad describing it but, it's not a bug, people are playing by the rules and are choosing to advance this way. It's just like in FFXI with abyssea XP alliances, I highly doubt abyssea was designed around that, but players used it and it wasnt against the rules.

The issue with AK speed runs is that people were skipping the majority of the dungeon, nobody's skipping killing the target enemies to complete this fate, they're just choosing to wait until the timer is nearly up to do so.

[Badger]

I believe he wants it to be slower. As if how fast others level effects him at all.

Why do you care so much? its not an exploit at all. it would be no different than pulling an entire zone and AOEing them down.


Seriously you people will call ANYTHING that others find as a good way to gain XP as an exploit or something that needs fixing.

I care because exploits like this reduce the amount of people doing other things, like non-exploitative fates, this actual fate chain, and dungeons. The more people that abuse fates like these* the less people there are to do other things, which does impact the community as a whole.

And who is "you people?"

*I'm unaware of any other fates like this, but if there are any they need to be fixed.

[neverendingxsin]

I care because exploits like this reduce the amount of people doing other things, like non-exploitative fates, this actual fate chain, and dungeons. The more people that abuse fates like these* the less people there are to do other things, which does impact the community as a whole.

And who is "you people?"

*I'm unaware of any other fates like this, but if there are any they need to be fixed.

Its not an exploit so stop calling it that. Choosing to wait until the last minute to finish the fate is playing by the rules. Also trust me their are plenty of people doing the other fates, so i don't see an issue their. And dungeons are absolutely pointless until level 50 and you have to farm tokens.

[DivineOracle]

I care because exploits like this reduce the amount of people doing other things, like non-exploitative fates, this actual fate chain, and dungeons. The more people that abuse fates like these* the less people there are to do other things, which does impact the community as a whole.

And who is "you people?"

*I'm unaware of any other fates like this, but if there are any they need to be fixed.

You're not very good at reading, Dark devices is working as intended. people were just smart about it and didn't kill the trigger mobs. I am starting to think you don't know what an exploit is.

[KojachLoT]

op is jelly he isnt 50 and his bad groups cant get him 200k xp on phase 1

leveling is not fast enough, fates should not be the only way to level a 2nd class but they are since the devs kept claiming you could level with guildhests but...you cant