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    Well guys after many different tries i decided to remove ToD and Fracture from my rotation, i'll keep using only Demolish as dot.
    In the previous runs i tryed to use the "dot rotation" and then the one without it with the same setup of people.
    When i don't use them i'v always the highest dps, i eaven surpass the enemity of the healers, and i'm doing it in Titan HM, where we don't atk him untill we have 0.70 lb and every time he jumps i lose my staks of GL.
    I'm not eaven clipping my dots, i always refresh them as soon they go off, so i don't rll know who i should use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odiato View Post
    Well guys after many different tries i decided to remove ToD and Fracture from my rotation, i'll keep using only Demolish as dot.
    In the previous runs i tryed to use the "dot rotation" and then the one without it with the same setup of people.
    When i don't use them i'v always the highest dps, i eaven surpass the enemity of the healers, and i'm doing it in Titan HM, where we don't atk him untill we have 0.70 lb and every time he jumps i lose my staks of GL.
    I'm not eaven clipping my dots, i always refresh them as soon they go off, so i don't rll know who i should use them.
    DoT's don't generate a lot of hate. So using rotations without them would push your enmity much higher. Doesn't necessarily mean your damage was higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    DoT's don't generate a lot of hate.
    Source pls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapiso View Post
    Source pls
    Throw DoTs on a target your Tank only hit once and see how long it takes them to decide to hit you. I bet you they wont even bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    Throw DoTs on a target your Tank only hit once and see how long it takes them to decide to hit you. I bet you they wont even bother.
    Is that your source ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapiso View Post
    Is that your source ?
    What's your damage source? I just gave you a way to easily test it. Also someone said above you why it's pretty obviously less enmity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynric View Post
    DoT's don't generate a lot of hate. So using rotations without them would push your enmity much higher. Doesn't necessarily mean your damage was higher.
    I don't understand why it would work like this, tecnically u'r dots should generate more hate but slower since u'r doing more damage.
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    Last edited by Odiato; 09-15-2013 at 05:41 PM.

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    First time posting in here, but I have been following this thread pretty religiously. I was wondering as I don't think it has been mentioned what tradeskills do you recommend for a monk? I currently have leather working as I think it may have to do with creating your artifact weapon from what I hear there a tradeskill combines to finish them. Are there any others I may want to invest in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraiser View Post
    First time posting in here, but I have been following this thread pretty religiously. I was wondering as I don't think it has been mentioned what tradeskills do you recommend for a monk? I currently have leather working as I think it may have to do with creating your artifact weapon from what I hear there a tradeskill combines to finish them. Are there any others I may want to invest in?
    LTW and GSM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odiato View Post
    I don't understand why it would work like this, tecnically u'r dots should generate more hate but slower since u'r doing more damage.
    Dots don't seem to generate nearly as much hate as an active skill, but they do add something. I've never see a dot spike the hate, without active skills involve, but rarely will a tank lose hate in boss mechanics that favor the tank 9 times out of 10. (they have range attacks that produce enmity, you don't).

    Dots are position neutral so they do server a tiny purpose. At max animation speed wall. Dots are stupidly long, and the chances of you loosing grease gets higher with every skill that is not in your 1-2-3 rotation. With the amount of off gcd abilties and moving, dots are...crap.

    If they reduced the animation by half on tod and demolish, I would consider them more, but compacting and focusing on the fight is way more important then trying to put a few measly potency on the board.

    The best time to dot is being red circle-ed. Pulling stupid stunts to get position will get you killed, but spamming a dot while moving the heck away is perfectly fine.
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 09-16-2013 at 09:23 AM.

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