Anti-Speed Run Mechanism

[Ariyn]

Don't pug it then, I wont be. If you are so pro and going to be raiding you must have an all pro FC to run these with. Should go pretty fast with everyone in all Garuda HM weapons. I am sure everyone will be ok if you do not grace the DF with your presence.

I have no intentions of pugging. Haven't pugged AK in weeks with the exception of maybe 1 person. My point is that for those that do pug this is what they will run into. The groups are going to get worse then they already are and people will be required to have certain levels of gear in order to even attempt it unless they make their own groups. No one will waste the 1+ hr in a dungeon to fail. So instead of the speed run QQ threads we will have threads asking for harsher penalties for people that leave. Oh wait those are already started, can be prepared for alot more of them.

[Ruprect]

I have no intentions of pugging. Haven't pugged AK in weeks with the exception of maybe 1 person. My point is that for those that do pug this is what they will run into. The groups are going to get worse then they already are and people will be required to have certain levels of gear in order to even attempt it unless they make their own groups. No one will waste the 1+ hr in a dungeon to fail. So instead of the speed run QQ threads we will have threads asking for harsher penalties for people that leave. Oh wait those are already started, can be prepared for alot more of them.

I honestly dont get why they let you PuG endgame content. Based on the huge amount of people that cannot handle the mechanics for NM Garuda, what made SE think that people could PuG AK or HM Ifrit. I say take them out of the DF.

[SerDakota]

its not that they stopped speed runs that bothers me its how they did it....all they have to do with make each trash drop some gil or like 1 tombstone they put all the barriers they want cause people would kill the trash anyways once again SE handles it very poorly

[xRitzx]

I so do get the point. At the rate people were getting tomes before this even casuals would have been to end game in a month or 2 lol. Then what? I can run castrum in about 40 minutes and get 100 tokens with my FC and all of us in vendor white gear and a few crafting pieces of jewelry for materia farm. This is by far the best way to farm tomes/gil. You do not need to run AK more than 4 times a week and then you can go to castrum for fast runs. People are making far to much out of this.

That's a much better response, before you kind of grouped everyone into the elitist category. I am posting because if I didn't, SE wouldn't know they had another upset customer. I don't complain about much so I'm not one that will complain if this goes the other way but as you see I don't support the move SE has made here. I will have to try those alternative methods once I get to 50 if SE doesn't change the way tomes are earned. I agree it's not good for even casuals to complete end game in a month or two but Yoshida said something like less than 100 players would complete The Binding Coil of Bahamut before 2.1. If that holds true, there was never a problem with players completing content too fast. We'll see what happens.

[Ruprect]

its not that they stopped speed runs that bothers me its how they did it....all they have to do with make each trash drop some gil or like 1 tombstone they put all the barriers they want cause people would kill the trash anyways once again SE handles it very poorly

I agree with this, it would have been better to create incentive.

That's a much better response, before you kind of grouped everyone into the elitist category. I am posting because if I didn't, SE wouldn't know they had another upset customer. I don't complain about much so I'm not one that will complain either way this goes but as you see I don't support the move SE has made here. I will have to try those alternative methods once I get to 50 if SE doesn't change the way tomes are earned. I agree it's not good for even casuals to complete end game in a month or two but Yoshida said something like less than 100 players would complete The Binding Coil of Bahamut. If that holds true, there was never a problem with players completing content too fast. We'll see what happens.

Not that everyone would complete Bahamut but they would already be working on it and getting burned out within a few months. They had to slow it down they just did it the wrong way.

[HunkyJimpjorps]

Why is everyone even concerned about getting full Darklight for every class? It's not necessary by far.

All this fear about how it's going to take months and months to get every piece of Darklight in the catalog is a self-inflicted problem. You don't need full Darklight for anything. You don't need full Darklight for every class. You're better served getting a couple pieces of Darklight, then moving on to hardmodes and Binding Coil.

[Ares_Nocturnal]

So now we are forced to kill useless trash mobs that offer us nothing but a repair bill. Also dealing with "elitist" tanks who can't even hold hate or avoid simple mob actions.

[Avorniel]

Also dealing with "elitist" tanks who can't even hold hate or avoid simple mob actions.

Guess the term "L2P your class " (not aimed at you Ares) springs to mind,reading the chat in my FC the tank was so used to speed runs,it has no idea how to cope with normal mobs..

and as for adding 1 tombstone per mob drop that still wouldn't stop the speed runs,going by a similar system in swtor peeps just bypassed all mobs got to boss and loot

[FinagleABagel]

This change is only going to bring the lack of high-end difficult raid content into more stark focus.

If I wanted a boring, grindy, simple game - I'd go to a F2P.

It was already simple. I see this patch as adding a grind which only highlights how easy/boring Castrum and AK are.

[Ariyn]

You're better served getting a couple pieces of Darklight, then moving on to hardmodes and Binding Coil.

Have you beaten HM Titan? Or any turn in coil?

I agree that you don't need every darklight piece but to go into HM titan with less then ilvl 60 gear at the worst is a mistake. As a PLD (same as you) we get hit with rockbuster, hits for ~3300 with cd's up. Without CD's you could be looking at 4k+ and it's frequent along with his other 5 abilities going off. So you having that low end gear is usually going to mean a wipe due to healers not being able to keep you and the group alive.

Coil is even worse. So saying that you only need 1-2 pieces of darklight to get into coil is just wrong. If you managed to do it then I give major props to your healers cuz they are some bad asses