To Those That Think Summoner DPS Is Low

[lvltwo]

Since we are on the topic of DPS for SMN, what exactly is the best stat prioritization? Is cast speed and Int > raw determination? What are the weights for Int against determination?

What exactly are the benefits of spell speed since we are a DoT class capped at a 3 second tick? Is it for Ruin spam?

Also whats the cast/recast gcd with stacking spell speed over 400 as I am seeing some of you have?

[Kevee]

Since we are on the topic of DPS for SMN, what exactly is the best stat prioritization? Is cat speed and Int > raw determination? What are the weights for Int against determination?

I'm going with Int > Crit > Spell Speed > Det.

So, endgame would be AF+1 Helm/Chest, Allagan Hands/Legs/Feet.

I would use the Darklight Breeches, imo, over AF+1 Breeches. Crit/Spell Speed vs Accuracy/Determination.


For the facts, I'm not sure if extensive testing has been done, but +crit has been shown to have very good returns.

[Dixa]

I'm going with Int > Crit > Spell Speed > Det.

So, endgame would be AF+1 Helm/Chest, Allagan Hands/Legs/Feet.

I would use the Darklight Breeches, imo, over AF+1 Breeches. Crit/Spell Speed vs Accuracy/Determination.


For the facts, I'm not sure if extensive testing has been done, but +crit has been shown to have very good returns.

only the initial hit of dots with initial hits can crit and not their damage over time component, but determinations affects all damage. makes more sense to go int > det > crit > spell speed.

[Kevee]

only the initial hit of dots with initial hits can crit and not their damage over time component, but determinations affects all damage. makes more sense to go int > det > crit > spell speed.

DoTs can crit.

[Viridiana]

only the initial hit of dots with initial hits can crit and not their damage over time component, but determinations affects all damage. makes more sense to go int > det > crit > spell speed.

DOTs can absolutely crit, or I would never get a River of Blood proc.

[Dixa]

DOTs can absolutely crit, or I would never get a River of Blood proc.

i've never seen a dot tick crit, and this is after hours of testing and prefecting rotations on dummies. the amount ticked every 3 seconds is constant for me

[Viridiana]

i've never seen a dot tick crit, and this is after hours of testing and prefecting rotations on dummies. the amount ticked every 3 seconds is constant for me

I've had River of Blood proc off of every tick of a Windbiter/Venomous Bite cast, meaning at least 6 crits in 18 seconds. Maybe you just can't crit the dummies?

[Thotor]

i've never seen a dot tick crit, and this is after hours of testing and prefecting rotations on dummies. the amount ticked every 3 seconds is constant for me

Crit is not written on the DoT damage but it sure does take place since BRD relies on crit DoT to proc abilities.
Because all DoTs damage are written into 1 damage (this include DoTs from other party members), it is right now impossible to tell anything about it (except testing on dummies but their HP is too low and you end up killing them all the time. Not sure how this affects parser)

[savant07]

Crit is not written on the DoT damage but it sure does take place since BRD relies on crit DoT to proc abilities.
Because all DoTs damage are written into 1 damage (this include DoTs from other party members), it is right now impossible to tell anything about it (except testing on dummies but their HP is too low and you end up killing them all the time. Not sure how this affects parser)

DoT crits just like other skills but they will not appear with an exclamation point or a bigger font. However, if you actually check the numbers, they will appear larger. In terms of combined DoT damage like say from all three DoTs, the number will vary a lot since one DoT MAY crit and the other will not and thus the damage increase is only slightly higher than the total damage all combined DoTs do. If ALL DoTs crit, it is 50% higher just like other skills.