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  1. #41
    Player
    Rover1983's Avatar
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    Gaius Valerius
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    If you pay attention to the floating dmg numbers which can be hard to do since you cannot filter the numbers but if you go fight a mob solo you'll see the dmg numbers don't tick separately, the number that pops up is the accumulation of all the dots. Currently in amdapor gear with max gc weapon, depending on group makeup, my 4 dots are ticking around 230-260. Plus ruin 140ish and pets dmg is just another dot so roughly 400ish dmg tota
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  2. #42
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Dixa View Post
    i've never seen a dot tick crit, and this is after hours of testing and prefecting rotations on dummies. the amount ticked every 3 seconds is constant for me
    I've had River of Blood proc off of every tick of a Windbiter/Venomous Bite cast, meaning at least 6 crits in 18 seconds. Maybe you just can't crit the dummies?
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  3. #43
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    NargaHuntress's Avatar
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    Character
    Olclessiy Yolmathaer
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Highest Crit I have ever done was 517! Using Fester with all Dots on the target. And that was at lv 40. But normal damage w/ Fester and all Dots on is 336. I only use Dots and Fester. I don't keep track of Dot damage per tick. Highest damage I've done w/ just Ruin II. was 114. Lv 41 so I'm content with summer right now.
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  4. #44
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    Melopahn's Avatar
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    Melopahn Theharmonic
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Ok summoners, I get that you're the most played class int he game and really don't want to get the shaft... but its already something they are addressing to bring you on par. You are the lowest for multiple reasons.

    Don't argue about dots cause guess what everyone has them and no ones dots are counted and yet... the other people are always above you on every meter that exists.

    the only damage dealers that have it as rough as you are monks but thats a whole different reason based on their mechanics.

    Don't stress it or freak out though I trust SE to totally address it, they are going to buff the minion which is really all you need. If the minions did more than 17dps you guys would be golden but their damage is just the opposite
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  5. #45
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    nimuniverse's Avatar
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    Sakura Rain
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    Kujata
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I beg to differ. I run WP constantly since it's the quickest in DF. I had run with all dps classes. But there was another SMN with me yesterday who knows the class. I broke the record time with that SMN. It was the quickest run I have ever done for WP. Every boss fight was way faster than any other dps. If you have not played the SMN class (I mean, really know the class) then you don't know what it is truly capable of.
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  6. #46
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    Hayward's Avatar
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    Hayward Timberwolf
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    All I have to say is "Thank the 12 we're not talking about having to sub /WHM to be 'useful' in the game".

    I'd have killed 1,000 Yagudos for this discussion in XI during those dark times.

    on topic: SMN DPS is decent but more is always welcome.
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  7. #47
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    Eggochiggo's Avatar
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    Character
    Eggo Chiggo
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 34
    I think that SMN dps is very good when they can DoT up a bunch of mobs at once, the problem is that CC is required in this game so putting full DoTs on every mob isn't a viable strategy unless you want to wipe your raid/party. This was huge issue with affliction locks early on and will need tuning. It is really just more bad game design, I don't understand how these guys can have a meetings when creating these games and actually overlook some of the issues the player base brings up within weeks of release.
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  8. #48
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    Perthaneus-Magnum's Avatar
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    Perthaneus Magnum
    World
    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by tn2389 View Post
    http://s18.postimg.org/iblvtjbmx/DPS_Basic.png
    http://s24.postimg.org/5rfycpjpx/DPS_Detailed.png

    Yes, I did Limit Break. (Meteor hit for 34545).

    However; 144122 total damaged divided by 273 DPS means the fight was 527.9 seconds long.

    Subtract the Meteor damage of 34545 (144122 - 34545) to get all the damage without Limit Break (109577).

    Divide by the length (109577/527.9) = 207.6 DPS.

    Also, Thunder DOT damage is bugged and Shadowcrush is not counted.

    I have three pieces of Darklight (ring, bracers, and necklace), 4 iLvl 55 greens, and rest iLvl 60 greens.

    Highest DPS class in game? Maybe.
    Ummm, meteor was used 5 times, according to your parse. This wasn't a single fight. Your DPS statement is out of the window.
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  9. #49
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    savant07's Avatar
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    Ashen Valanar
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Perthaneus-Magnum View Post
    Ummm, meteor was used 5 times, according to your parse. This wasn't a single fight. Your DPS statement is out of the window.
    Why you gotta rain on his parade man?!
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  10. #50
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dixa View Post
    i've never seen a dot tick crit, and this is after hours of testing and prefecting rotations on dummies. the amount ticked every 3 seconds is constant for me
    Crit is not written on the DoT damage but it sure does take place since BRD relies on crit DoT to proc abilities.
    Because all DoTs damage are written into 1 damage (this include DoTs from other party members), it is right now impossible to tell anything about it (except testing on dummies but their HP is too low and you end up killing them all the time. Not sure how this affects parser)
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