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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasrai View Post
    Of course. Because it's definitely not a case of current endgame content being a joke right? No that can't possibly be it. This is the hardest endgame content ever made! /sarcasm
    Yeah everyone's got Coil on easymode farm. Why you see pugs for that everywhere!

    Or is Amdapor endgame as far as you're concerned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    Yeah everyone's got Coil on easymode farm. Why you see pugs for that everywhere!

    Or is Amdapor endgame as far as you're concerned?
    The game has been out a week and Coil is starting to be cleared already. Are you seriously using the fact that pugs aren't clearing it as your argument? Back peddle some more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasrai View Post
    The game has been out a week and Coil has been cleared already. Are you seriously using the fact that pugs aren't clearing it as your argument? Back peddle some more.
    Oh? Who's cleared Coil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    Oh? Who's cleared Coil?
    Starting to be cleared. It's 5:40am and I haven't slept yet -.-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasrai View Post
    Starting to be cleared. It's 5:40am and I haven't slept yet -.-
    Oh STARTED to be cleared. Because killing the first parts of a dungeon is the same as doing it.

    "Hey guys, we got Titan to 50% twice, that's like killing him!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    Oh STARTED to be cleared. Because killing the first parts of a dungeon is the same as doing it.

    "Hey guys, we got Titan to 50% twice, that's like killing him!"
    Don't get butt-hurt now. I heard tons of MMOs out there have their endgame getting progressed through in the first week right? Right? No wait. Not right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasrai View Post
    Don't get butt-hurt now. I heard tons of MMOs out there have their endgame getting progressed through in the first week right? Right? No wait. Not right.
    And tons of MMOs have people with the third-best equipment and several weeks of practice (remember those beta phases?) all at the level cap right when the game comes out. Right?

    And yeah, most MMOs do have their endgame cleared within a week of it being released. Heck it's weird when it takes more than three or four days, and that's including leveling up and gearing up.

    Look, I get you just started and so far nothing's been vaguely challenging. That's normal. Everything below 50 is pretty mind-numbingly easy. The people saying they've cleared Ifrit or Garuda like it's endgame content are in for a surprise when they realize that those are the first 2 of 8 bits of endgame dungeons. Castrum, Praetorium, Wanderer's and Amdapor are not really endgame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post
    And yeah, most MMOs do have their endgame cleared within a week of it being released. Heck it's weird when it takes more than three or four days, and that's including leveling up and gearing up.
    Ohh I see. Trying to preserve the thought of endgame being hard to make your Legacy time mean something.

    Just for shits and giggles, name some relevant, and I repeat relevant, MMOs that have their endgame being progressed through within the first week. You can't cheat and name things like GW2 and Tera that had no endgame when they were released though. Actually, you can name those. That would just make me right wouldn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasrai View Post
    Don't get butt-hurt now. I heard tons of MMOs out there have their endgame getting progressed through in the first week right? Right? No wait. Not right.
    Actually, with less than a handful being exceptions, most are having their endgame content progressed through in the first week, and some within two to three days. If you demand an example, then WoW would be one. Every expansion post-TBC actually. And if we aren't allowed to list things that launch with minimal or no endgame content all you're really left with is WoW.

    I could argue that FFXI doesn't count because it had a boss that took almost 20 hours to kill and that's just bad design. Most of its bosses were designed to take a long time, and in any other MMO would have been maybe 10-15 minute fights max.

    So please, just stop trying to start shit for no reason before I am forced to report your flamebait posts.
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    Last edited by Aicasia; 09-05-2013 at 11:16 PM.

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    Back on track...,

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    I dropped Fracture from my boss Rotation. I open with ToD, Twin Snakes and Demolish. Once the DoTs are rolling, and I've got the Twin Snakes buff, i just alternate between Twin Snakes and True Strike, Demolish and Snap Punch. Keeps up my GL stacks, my Twin Snake buff and my DoTs with none falling off.
    Not using Fracturecis a definite DPS loss. It can be awkward to fit it into a rotation well due to the odd duration, but it is certainly worth it.
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