Are Monks weakest DPS?

[Extreme]

There are 4 other dps classes :

Bard : Bard is topping dps with Black Mage, so monk is lower.

Black Mage : There is no way a Monk can outdamage a Black mage, even in single target, with equal gear.

Dragoon : Dragoon is easier to play, does more damage Single target and AoE than monk.

Summoner : Summoner have slightly better dps than Monks if your pet doesn't die.

Quick answer : Yes Monks are the lowest dps. A well played BLM will do 30 to 40% more dps than a well played Monk with equal gear.

Monks bring :



To be honest I would never take a Monk over any other classes in a perfect 8man group but in 24man raids, they could be actually very useful for chaining mantras.

tldr : Monks have the lowest dps, they bring utility but the difference between their dps and other's doesn't justify a spot in an optimized group.

Says the lvl 37 mnk....

[kyrios91]

I think of it this way, Monks deal lower DPS average but in longer battles, they can achieve high DPS and sustain that DPS because of the GL stacks and other self-buff that are applied to them.

[Purutzil]

The issue is monks are a lot harder to play then other classes and can easily suffer form disconnects ruining their abilities causing them to need to 'setup' once again. Without those issues I think monks wouldn't have a problem being up near the top of dps. That being said, its very likely you are doing something wrong as well that your dps isn't very high with it.

[CursedCoffee]

There is so much bad advice going out in this thread, it's incredible.

Currently monks are the best dps in the game. The trick is to stop using demolish and touch of death. I'm not kidding. There are spread sheets out there, you can look it up for yourselves. But currently monks can parse for approximately 190-210 dps in level 45 AF gear. Other classes peak at about 170.

As far as difficulty is concerned, once you cut the fat from your rotation it's basically 1234123412341234. Simplest class in the game.

Current pecking order is as follows: MNK > SMN > BLM > DRG(this varies on fight) > BRD

You people really need to stop calling the best dps class in the game the worst simply because you don't understand math or the class. :P


EDIT: To add a bit of additional evidence to this claim, Blue Garter's BL group consisted of PLD PLD WHM WHM MNK MNK MNK DRG
There is a reason for that madness, and it isn't because MNK sucks.

[Teeko]

There is so much bad advice going out in this thread, it's incredible.

Currently monks are the best dps in the game. The trick is to stop using demolish and touch of death. I'm not kidding.

Not saying you are wrong, but why are you saying not to use those dots? Which abilities do you use instead? Is Fracture at least worth it?

Trying to improve my monk dps, so I am just curious

[kukurumei]

Not saying you are wrong, but why are you saying not to use those dots? Which abilities do you use instead? Is Fracture at least worth it?

Trying to improve my monk dps, so I am just curious

Mnks use demolish/touch of death because they have to
Pugists do not. They have way way way better skills to choose from.

Though realistically Dots are pretty meh, except for fights you run away from. Except for fracture, they have disgustingly long animations. They do provide faster Limit break charging.

[Kevee]

Currently monks are the best dps in the game. The trick is to stop using demolish and touch of death. I'm not kidding. There are spread sheets out there, you can look it up for yourselves. But currently monks can parse for approximately 190-210 dps in level 45 AF gear. Other classes peak at about 170.

Those spreadsheets are from Beta when % buffs didn't work with DoTs.

Now all buffs do, GL, FoF, etc.

You should be using the DoTs, they're your hardest hitting skills if they have time to bleed out.

[Thotor]

Currently monks are the best dps in the game. The trick is to stop using demolish and touch of death. I'm not kidding. There are spread sheets out there, you can look it up for yourselves. But currently monks can parse for approximately 190-210 dps in level 45 AF gear. Other classes peak at about 170.]

190 on training dummy ? That's my dps as BRD.
Just because one group use mainly MNKs as DPS doesn't mean they are the best.

Anyway none of this is relevant. The issue with monks is that it requires too much positioning and encounters makes it very hard for MNK. You can have the best dps on dummy, there is no use to it if you can't apply it in a real situation.

[Kasrai]

To add a bit of additional evidence to this claim, Blue Garter's BL group consisted of PLD PLD WHM WHM MNK MNK MNK DRG
There is a reason for that madness, and it isn't because MNK sucks.

Of course. Because it's definitely not a case of current endgame content being a joke right? No that can't possibly be it. This is the hardest endgame content ever made! /sarcasm

"Dude I saw Tiger Woods beat my dad in a round of golf using a rubber chicken as his only club. Obviously the rubber chicken is the next big thing in golf."

[Powercow]

Of course. Because it's definitely not a case of current endgame content being a joke right? No that can't possibly be it. This is the hardest endgame content ever made! /sarcasm

Yeah everyone's got Coil on easymode farm. Why you see pugs for that everywhere!

Or is Amdapor endgame as far as you're concerned?