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    Player
    DefeatedYMIR's Avatar
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    Toasted Buns
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    Gilgamesh
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    Machinist Lv 90

    Are Monks weakest DPS?

    I've been interested in Monks, but I noticed the DPS seems extremely low compared to Lancer and Archer. What's the deal? Or perhaps maybe I just suck. lol
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    Katiklysm's Avatar
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    Desirae Starfire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Are you level 50?

    MNK requires more effort/timing to optimize dps than either class you're comparing it to, and they seem to scale better as your gear gets top end. A tweak or two maybe, but no- in general they are not lower dps.

    Even if your rotations are bad- keeping GL up is the key. If the fight precludes you from keeping GL up constantly, then yes, you'll fall below other dps class damage.
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Definitely not low at 50 assuming not too many disconnects.

    I do wish we had an ability at 50 that refreshed our GL stacks from range. Even if it did zero damage that would be amazing
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    Moxie Quickpaw
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    Exodus
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    Pugilist Lv 47
    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    I do wish we had an ability at 50 that refreshed our GL stacks from range. Even if it did zero damage that would be amazing
    This. The only thing that hurts monk DPS atm is when there is forced movement away from ANY targets to hit. then we must ramp up the DPS again.
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    Leky Vanillus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subucnimorning View Post
    Definitely not low at 50 assuming not too many disconnects.

    I do wish we had an ability at 50 that refreshed our GL stacks from range. Even if it did zero damage that would be amazing
    I'd like to see shoulder charge do this, and have it's cooldown reduced to at least 30s. I'd even sacrifice the stun and the damage if it refreshed GL and had a lower cooldown.
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    Orb Naethem
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    Moogle
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    Pugilist Lv 40
    There are 4 other dps classes :

    Bard : Bard is topping dps with Black Mage, so monk is lower.

    Black Mage : There is no way a Monk can outdamage a Black mage, even in single target, with equal gear.

    Dragoon : Dragoon is easier to play, does more damage Single target and AoE than monk.

    Summoner : Summoner have slightly better dps than Monks if your pet doesn't die.

    Quick answer : Yes Monks are the lowest dps. A well played BLM will do 30 to 40% more dps than a well played Monk with equal gear.

    Monks bring :

    -10% INT debuff
    +20% heal potency on the group for 15 sec every 120 sec
    Melee Transcendance
    To be honest I would never take a Monk over any other classes in a perfect 8man group but in 24man raids, they could be actually very useful for chaining mantras.

    tldr : Monks have the lowest dps, they bring utility but the difference between their dps and other's doesn't justify a spot in an optimized group.
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    Player ilJumperMT's Avatar
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    Skadi Frostborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salaster View Post
    There are 4 other dps classes :

    Bard : Bard is topping dps with Black Mage, so monk is lower.
    snip
    Sorry but it depends on fight. Fights that require little movement, Monk has the highest DPS by a landslide.
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    Shae'ah Solaris
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilJumperMT View Post
    Sorry but it depends on fight. Fights that require little movement, Monk has the highest DPS by a landslide.
    This, there is no way on earth a bard is holding up DPS against a monk. . . . some people clearly don't understand numbers


    And I clearly don't understand dates as this is WAAAYYYYYY old haha
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    Last edited by Aeora; 05-27-2014 at 11:22 PM. Reason: Idiocy

    I commend your effort with language!

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    Clio Astra
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Salaster View Post
    To be honest I would never take a Monk over any other classes in a perfect 8man group but in 24man raids, they could be actually very useful for chaining mantras
    You couldn't be more wrong. Monks have the highest sustained single target DPS of any class in the game, by a large margin.
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    Bauchelain Md
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Salaster View Post
    Summoner : Summoner have slightly better dps than Monks if your pet doesn't die.
    Proof please
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