Are Monks weakest DPS?

[Powercow]

The game has been out a week and Coil has been cleared already. Are you seriously using the fact that pugs aren't clearing it as your argument? Back peddle some more.

Oh? Who's cleared Coil?

[Kasrai]

Oh? Who's cleared Coil?

Starting to be cleared. It's 5:40am and I haven't slept yet -.-

[Powercow]

Starting to be cleared. It's 5:40am and I haven't slept yet -.-

Oh STARTED to be cleared. Because killing the first parts of a dungeon is the same as doing it.

"Hey guys, we got Titan to 50% twice, that's like killing him!"

[Kasrai]

Oh STARTED to be cleared. Because killing the first parts of a dungeon is the same as doing it.

"Hey guys, we got Titan to 50% twice, that's like killing him!"

Don't get butt-hurt now. I heard tons of MMOs out there have their endgame getting progressed through in the first week right? Right? No wait. Not right.

[Powercow]

Don't get butt-hurt now. I heard tons of MMOs out there have their endgame getting progressed through in the first week right? Right? No wait. Not right.

And tons of MMOs have people with the third-best equipment and several weeks of practice (remember those beta phases?) all at the level cap right when the game comes out. Right?

And yeah, most MMOs do have their endgame cleared within a week of it being released. Heck it's weird when it takes more than three or four days, and that's including leveling up and gearing up.

Look, I get you just started and so far nothing's been vaguely challenging. That's normal. Everything below 50 is pretty mind-numbingly easy. The people saying they've cleared Ifrit or Garuda like it's endgame content are in for a surprise when they realize that those are the first 2 of 8 bits of endgame dungeons. Castrum, Praetorium, Wanderer's and Amdapor are not really endgame.

[Kasrai]

And yeah, most MMOs do have their endgame cleared within a week of it being released. Heck it's weird when it takes more than three or four days, and that's including leveling up and gearing up.

Ohh I see. Trying to preserve the thought of endgame being hard to make your Legacy time mean something.

Just for shits and giggles, name some relevant, and I repeat relevant, MMOs that have their endgame being progressed through within the first week. You can't cheat and name things like GW2 and Tera that had no endgame when they were released though. Actually, you can name those. That would just make me right wouldn't it?

[Aicasia]

Don't get butt-hurt now. I heard tons of MMOs out there have their endgame getting progressed through in the first week right? Right? No wait. Not right.

Actually, with less than a handful being exceptions, most are having their endgame content progressed through in the first week, and some within two to three days. If you demand an example, then WoW would be one. Every expansion post-TBC actually. And if we aren't allowed to list things that launch with minimal or no endgame content all you're really left with is WoW.

I could argue that FFXI doesn't count because it had a boss that took almost 20 hours to kill and that's just bad design. Most of its bosses were designed to take a long time, and in any other MMO would have been maybe 10-15 minute fights max.

So please, just stop trying to start shit for no reason before I am forced to report your flamebait posts.

[Kasrai]

If you demand an example, then WoW would be one. Every expansion post-TBC actually. And if we aren't allowed to list things that launch with minimal or no endgame content all you're really left with is WoW.

Because post-TBC WoW is release right? Looks like I'm done here.

[Aicasia]

Because post-TBC WoW is release right? Looks like I'm done here.

Every expansion is a release of new content. I'm not going to argue semantics, but it seems you want to in an attempt to invalidate my example and prove to yourself that you were right. Blizzard has consistently underestimated the time it would take to clear new endgame content after TBC. It's newly released content. Just because it's an expansion doesn't mean shit. People clear it in under 48 hours.