The Monk Temple

[Spythe]

I'm not at all surprised to see that Monk is considered a "low tier" damage dealer. .

That is the thing a well played Monk should be able to out DPS all DPS in certain fights. Dragoons are actually more position depend since theirs are required for their major debuffs and buffs which is kinda the reason I switched to a Monk. Also the Monk has a lot more options, lower GCD, and less played. I think Fists of Wind needs a serious buff for heavy movement fight that should be the fist of choice, switch to Earth for AoE damage, and Fire for just raw DPS. The Monk is slightly more complex and i Like it.

A monk attacking from the side can get all his debuffs/buffs up on a target.

A Dragoon HAS to attack from behind at least once every 30sec to get one dot up and the piercing debuff up on the boss.

This is coming from someone that has a 42 Monk and a 41 Dragoon.

[kukurumei]

That is the thing a well played Monk should be able to out DPS all DPS in certain fights. Dragoons are actually more position depend since theirs are required for their major debuffs and buffs which is kinda the reason I switched to a Monk. Also the Monk has a lot more options, lower GCD, and less played. I think Fists of Wind needs a serious buff for heavy movement fight that should be the fist of choice, switch to Earth for AoE damage, and Fire for just raw DPS. The Monk is slightly more complex and i Like it.

A monk attacking from the side can get all his debuffs/buffs up on a target.

A Dragoon HAS to attack from behind at least once every 30sec to get one dot up and the piercing debuff up on the boss.

This is coming from someone that has a 42 Monk and a 41 Dragoon.

Not really... Drg positioning doesn't drop your damage off the face of the earth like mnk does. They can still go back to their basics.

Mnks can never go back to basics. They have to be in position, get their timing right or bust.

Anyone who wants an easier life should play Drg (I'm tempted to do so at times). They are just better at doing the "baseline" They got pretty much all their bases covered from range-to-melee-to-aoe

Mnks are very min-max. A lot of things can go right and a lot of things can go wrong with the Mnk. That's the life of this class, no other way around it.

You have to bring your mojo when you fisticuffs.

[moteofdust]

Mnks are very min-max. A lot of things can go right and a lot of things can go wrong with the Mnk. That's the life of this class, no other way around it.

You have to bring your mojo when you fisticuffs.

This is both a more honest and also more appealing description of the monk than I have seen by both player opinion and official class break down.

You should have been the Monks official PR, you make it sound so poetic.

[enil]

A Dragoon HAS to attack from behind at least once every 30sec to get one dot up and the piercing debuff up on the boss.

A Monk loses way more potential dps if they do not reposition for their skills. I'm assuming you are talking about the Impulse Drive -> Disembowel -> Chaos Thrust combo.

Dragoon does not have to attack from behind with Impulse Drive. You lose 80 potency every 30 seconds but if you compare to a Monk who doesn't move from the side.
1. Bootshine automatic crit. Depending on your current crit rate, this is a potency loss of 50-60 per use. You will be using this every second rotation unless you have someone putting on the dragonkick buff. Then you'll be using is every rotation. Assuming a rotation every 10 seconds thats 100 - 150 potency loss.
2. Impulse drive. Some monks slot this in if we can do it without loses any of our buff/debuffs. That's 80 potency per use.
3. 5% crit on true strike. Not a big deal.

[Leonas]

A Monk loses way more potential dps if they do not reposition for their skills. I'm assuming you are talking about the Impulse Drive -> Disembowel -> Chaos Thrust combo.

Dragoon does not have to attack from behind with Impulse Drive. You lose 80 potency *snip*
3. 5% crit on true strike. Not a big deal.

Wrong. Impulse drive leads into Disembowel, and you only get the 10% more piercing as long as you hit Impulse from behind to make the combo work towards disembowel.

[enil]

Wrong. Impulse drive leads into Disembowel, and you only get the 10% more piercing as long as you hit Impulse from behind to make the combo work towards disembowel.

Can't logon to test! This interaction doesn't seem to be documented/described anywhere though. Either in the description for impulse and disembowel.