Dev[1033]Class names

[Warp]

So replacing generic names with other generic names is a good thing to do in your opinion? And I haven't said anything about names such as gladiator. I have only talked about the name thaumaturge versus names like red mage, blue mage, etc. So don't try to change my words or message.

ps: If you want me to take you seriously cut the capslock thing, it's really unnecessary..

First off, grow up. I'm using caps for emphasis, not for screaming. If you want to debate the uniqueness of Thaumaturge over any of the classic FF mage names, that's fine. Thaumaturge essentially means magic user, magician, a catch-all. The fact that it's actually in the dictionary just goes to show how generic it is.

Again, there is nothing generic about Red Mage, White Mage, Black Mage, etc. They are unique because they were created by Hironobu Sakaguchi.

[Cairdeas]

First off, grow up. I'm using caps for emphasis, not for screaming. If you want to debate the uniqueness of Thaumaturge over any of the classic FF mage names, that's fine. Thaumaturge essentially means magic user, magician, a catch-all. The fact that it's actually in the dictionary just goes to show how generic it is.

Again, there is nothing generic about Red Mage, White Mage, Black Mage, etc. They are unique because they were created by Hironobu Sakaguchi.

Heh.

Little Known Fact. They were created by Tanaka. :P

[Wobi]

First off, grow up. I'm using caps for emphasis, not for screaming. If you want to debate the uniqueness of Thaumaturge over any of the classic FF mage names, that's fine. Thaumaturge essentially means magic user, magician, a catch-all. The fact that it's actually in the dictionary just goes to show how generic it is.

Again, there is nothing generic about Red Mage, White Mage, Black Mage, etc. They are unique because they were created by Hironobu Sakaguchi.

Just because he came up with them doesn't mean they are great names. If the Japanese ones are so great then why don't we come up with new ones for English or change the current Japanese ones from the *terribly* bland ones we have now? Also the job Conjurer currently is functions more like Scholar from FFXI. I don't think we can just tack a classic name on it if it doesn't fit the bill.

Did you enjoy all the fun ways of showing emphasis that don't involve Caps Locks, thus potentially misconstruing the meaning of your sentence?

[Cairdeas]

Just because he came up with them doesn't mean they are great names. If the Japanese ones are so great then why don't we come up with new ones for English or change the current Japanese ones from the *terribly* bland ones we have now? Also the job Conjurer currently is functions more like Scholar from FFXI. I don't think we can just tack a classic name on it if it doesn't fit the bill.

Did you enjoy all the fun ways of showing emphasis that don't involve Caps Locks, thus potentially misconstruing the meaning of your sentence?

The Classes in XIV are generic because all they are supposed to be is your weapon. Gladiator = Sword, Pugilist = Knuckles, Marauder = Axe, Archer = Bows, Lancer = Lance, Conjurer = Circle AOE, Thaumaturge = Cone AOE.

You learn skills by using weapons then mix and match the skills together to make up your own Character not a class or job.

They already said they will be implementing the Classic FF Jobs to instill a sense of Role for players should they chose. And make it easy for other players to identify that "Hey that Gladiator is a Thief, not a Paladin."

[Wobi]

The Classes in XIV are generic because all they are supposed to be is your weapon. Gladiator = Sword, Pugilist = Knuckles, Marauder = Axe, Archer = Bows, Lancer = Lance, Conjurer = Circle AOE, Thaumaturge = Cone AOE.

You learn skills by using weapons then mix and match the skills together to make up your own Character not a class or job.

They already said they will be implementing the Classic FF Jobs to instill a sense of Role for players should they chose. And make it easy for other players to identify that "Hey that Gladiator is a Thief, not a Paladin."

Oh I know, I was just giving an alternative to their idea under a worst case scenario that the renamed the base classes for some silly reason. I posted the idea of branching off into specialization classes/jobs on Zam like 3 months ago, I've been on board with the concept before they even mentioned it.

[Cairdeas]

Oh I know, I was just giving an alternative to their idea under a worst case scenario that the renamed the base classes for some silly reason. I posted the idea of branching off into specialization classes/jobs on Zam like 3 months ago, I've been on board with the concept before they even mentioned it.

Yeah, I remember Tanaka and I Think either Komoto or Yasu talking about how they were trying to create a title system that identified you for a Classic Job name based on what your weapon and skills were.

I'm hoping whats coming is an evolution of that. a Basic title system that grants a Title and then bonuses for if you maintain a skill loadout that matches the title but still allows the customization from the Armoury System.

[swtch]

They already said they will be implementing the Classic FF Jobs to instill a sense of Role for players should they chose. And make it easy for other players to identify that "Hey that Gladiator is a Thief, not a Paladin."

ok i realize now the ignorance in the original post so lets change the question from what class name you would like, to what specific job names you would like and maybe how you think they should parse the jobs to differentiate a "gladiator into jobs like a thief or paladin."

would it be good to have the different jobs automatically selected through what skills you have equipped or

would it be better to have the choice be presented at like level 20 "choose your job" and have it differentiate that way.

what would people like better?

[Zenaku]

The Classes in XIV are generic because all they are supposed to be is your weapon. Gladiator = Sword, Pugilist = Knuckles, Marauder = Axe, Archer = Bows, Lancer = Lance, Conjurer = Circle AOE, Thaumaturge = Cone AOE.

You learn skills by using weapons then mix and match the skills together to make up your own Character not a class or job.

They already said they will be implementing the Classic FF Jobs to instill a sense of Role for players should they chose. And make it easy for other players to identify that "Hey that Gladiator is a Thief, not a Paladin."

Oh god i hope it not only a dam title -.- i want a real Monk not Pug. sadly pug and monk are noting a like. I want to be a monk and use Monk JA for look of it, it be more of a system your a pug now you can become monk,???,??? and now you level that pass 50 or w/e they do.

If it's only a title and you stay with the same JA,WS,Spell as PUg then they have done noting. being a CONJ and getting the title whm mean noting if you still can use black mage spell now. If your a conj and you become BLM,WHM or sch that more understanding now you can become a whm and only use white magic or become a blm or become a SCH and that be like your conj and mix of both that better system then just putting a tittle over your name.

[Elexia]

Just because he came up with them doesn't mean they are great names. If the Japanese ones are so great then why don't we come up with new ones for English or change the current Japanese ones from the *terribly* bland ones we have now? Also the job Conjurer currently is functions more like Scholar from FFXI. I don't think we can just tack a classic name on it if it doesn't fit the bill.

Did you enjoy all the fun ways of showing emphasis that don't involve Caps Locks, thus potentially misconstruing the meaning of your sentence?

RDM:
Akamadoushi

BLM:
Kuromadoushi

WHM:
Shiromadoushi

BLU:
Aomadoushi

Which all comes down to being adherent in the magic class (red, black, white, blue) when prior to FF mainstream wise, you've never heard of different type of mages, you've heard of Mage or Elf or Thaumaturge, Magician, Druid etc. I'm biased, but it is a lot more creative than "Sword user".

[Thsscks]

First off, grow up. I'm using caps for emphasis, not for screaming. If you want to debate the uniqueness of Thaumaturge over any of the classic FF mage names, that's fine. Thaumaturge essentially means magic user, magician, a catch-all. The fact that it's actually in the dictionary just goes to show how generic it is.

Again, there is nothing generic about Red Mage, White Mage, Black Mage, etc. They are unique because they were created by Hironobu Sakaguchi.

First of what do you want a discussion or just flat out insult me with baseless statements?
You don't need to emphasise anything since my eyes and mind are good enough to read. Thaumaturge can have a lot of meanings. Some litteraly interpret it as folding up of the earth. Others read it as miracle worker, saint or magician.
Now let's be honest and try to compare this irrespective from the whole FF lore and history with blue or red mage. Now if you were to name it that way people with no previous experience with FF wouldn't have a clue what it is about.
But fine if you add so much values to colors as a characteristic of class name, then go ahead. For me it just looks like a lack of inspiration, there are great names out there which can people inspire or encourage to try such a class. But there are already enough colors out their in the real world, so I'm pretty sure that people with no previous FF experience (of which I expect this game to be open to as well) won't get overexcited over such a dull name.