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    I don't want just the name Black Mage I want the actual messy classes to be turned into BLM's and WHM's. THM and CON classes are such a terrible terrible unbalanced mess that I don't see any reason to keep them. All the melee classes are basically the same too.
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    I really don't see why people are making such a fuss over the class names. That they need rebalancing is true. But throwing jump and calling it dragoon isn't going to solve anything. Renaming gladiator to paladin won't fix anything, (isn't paladin a more advanced class anyway)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I really don't see why people are making such a fuss over the class names. That they need rebalancing is true. But throwing jump and calling it dragoon isn't going to solve anything. Renaming gladiator to paladin won't fix anything, (isn't paladin a more advanced class anyway)?
    Yes. All of the current Classes are merely stepping stones. The problem is the way SE designed the game the next Step has to be forced by the Player.

    Gladiator is a Sword User. But he has a bunch of stepping stones he can take from there.

    Equip Healing Magic, Defense Abilities, and Shield Skills. You are essentially a Paladin. You tank.

    Equip Subversive skills, enfeebs, and situation damage dealing abilities You are essentially a Thief. You Subvert.

    Equip A mix of Healing Magic, Elemental spells, and Damage over Time Spells along with your elemental weapon skills. You are essentially a Red Mage, You ... do what red mages do. I'm not sure what role Redmage ever fills they are a hybrid they can litterally do EVERYTHING which is why they were always so popular and why a 1 Red Mage (3 dead white mage) playthrough of FF1 is so possible.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Long as they don't include any form of blue mage, they can do whatever they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sruon View Post
    Long as they don't include any form of blue mage, they can do whatever they want.
    What's your problem with blue mage? lol

    EDIT:Ahh, I think I get it.
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    I think his whole point is those names are "generic", yet the current names, especially in Japanese, are even more generic which is why the whole class system currently is generic beyond generic even with the ability of cross classing skills.
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    Let's use your example:

    I know zero about star wars so if I seen multi colored Lightsabers I'll just assume they're just different colored sabers with no meaning, yet I can guarantee someone who KNOWS more about star wars will gladly "correct" me in saying they're held by different rank/entities of the Jedi which generally means they're of a different skill level or position, correct?

    Final Fantasy isn't the only series out there, but it is one of the most referenced series just like when someone talks about Sci-Fi they proclaim "Star Trek" or "Star Wars" yet they're clearly not the only Sci-Fi series out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Let's use your example:

    I know zero about star wars so if I seen multi colored Lightsabers I'll just assume they're just different colored sabers with no meaning, yet I can guarantee someone who KNOWS more about star wars will gladly "correct" me in saying they're held by different rank/entities of the Jedi which generally means they're of a different skill level or position, correct?

    Final Fantasy isn't the only series out there, but it is one of the most referenced series just like when someone talks about Sci-Fi they proclaim "Star Trek" or "Star Wars" yet they're clearly not the only Sci-Fi series out there.
    I'll go ahead and update you just based on the KOTOR lore i know

    When a Jedi first construct their lightsaber they are drawn to a lightsaber crystal that resonates with their own Force Energy. The color of this crystal is usually similar to the color of the type of Jedi they are. Jedi Knights are Light Saber Specialists and gravitate to Blue, Jedi Consulars were masters of the Force and prefered using force powers over the Light saber, they gravitate to green.

    After KOTOR most of the caverns where light saber crystals could be found had be stripped clean and new jedi had to Forge a crystal using their own force powers. Luke Skywalker did this.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Let's use your example:

    I know zero about star wars so if I seen multi colored Lightsabers I'll just assume they're just different colored sabers with no meaning, yet I can guarantee someone who KNOWS more about star wars will gladly "correct" me in saying they're held by different rank/entities of the Jedi which generally means they're of a different skill level or position, correct?
    That's is what I was trying to say all along. That's why they don't name it that way, not in the lore nor in the games and other products.
    Blue mage doesn't have any meaning to me as a newcomer to the Final Fantasy series, that's why I'm dissappointed when they use it as a name.
    Final Fantasy isn't the only series out there, but it is one of the most referenced series just like when someone talks about Sci-Fi they proclaim "Star Trek" or "Star Wars" yet they're clearly not the only Sci-Fi series out there.
    Maybe it is one of the most referenced name in the fantasy genre of games, but it isn't an excuse in my eyes to force dull and meaningless names like colored mages down people's throat, whether they are new to the genre or not.

    No, They named them Jedi Knights and Jedi Consulars because thats the LORE OF THE FRANCHISE. LOLS BRILLIANT CONCEPT
    Now let's be honest a name such as jedi knight or jedi consular even outside of that lore makes more sense than colored mages...
    And I think I said this before in the thread but don't bother abusing capslock since my eyes are good enough to read.
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    Yep, which his why we're getting a different system to complement it rather than just merely changing a name.
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