Thread: Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

Pleasantly surprised to see people are still keeping up the good fight in here. Maybe in Dawntrail we can at least get rid of Shoha II, if not get Kaiten back in its place. I don't really know what more they could add to our kit at this point, for level 100.

This is more for DPS classes in general, but I actually have a big problem with how incomplete the other DPS jobs feel at 50 compared to where SAM starts at 50. Instead of more abilities I'd rather have SE look at certain abilities being added way too late for certain jobs, making lots of levels feel like filler and making the class feel incomplete even as you're completing the first storyline of the game. DRG sticks out off the top of my head, it has no AoE rotation at 50 while SAM has a complete one.

Originally Posted by Theodric_Thorne

Pleasantly surprised to see people are still keeping up the good fight in here. Maybe in Dawntrail we can at least get rid of Shoha II, if not get Kaiten back in its place. I don't really know what more they could add to our kit at this point, for level 100.

This is more for DPS classes in general, but I actually have a big problem with how incomplete the other DPS jobs feel at 50 compared to where SAM starts at 50. Instead of more abilities I'd rather have SE look at certain abilities being added way too late for certain jobs, making lots of levels feel like filler and making the class feel incomplete even as you're completing the first storyline of the game. DRG sticks out off the top of my head, it has no AoE rotation at 50 while SAM has a complete one.

Made sure the Kaiten cosplayer was posted on the general subsection as it is way more active. Although Honestly at this point? to me I just don't want to see any more Job simplifications in general as it's Job design direction currently seems lacking compared to what it can be.

Link to the thread here ->" G-give it Back T---T; !! "

And I'm very glad to see support brought to it, mhm

I'd like it to return, wouldn't mind another button to press and the animation is still 10/10 but at this point I think I would rather they fixed other things.

Tsubame/Kaeshi is bad, its a desperate attempt to 1. Pad our "strong gcds" in damage windows and 2. Reduce the eggs you put in a singular basket for RNG by dividing it in 2; historically for the direct crit, now just the direct. At this point make Iki 1 min and 1 hit so our 1 min is more than essentially Tsubame and re-apply Bana, idk lol.

Make meditate useful and USEABLE (the same can be said for anatman) in down time so we have more flexibility to use Mekyo for funky re-openers. Currently if downtime exceeds 40 secs you essentially barely have a choice depending on your SEN state. BLM is literally the only job has a useful downtime tool, I suppose NIN too.

We are LITERALLY the only melee dps that has to run up to the boss for the opener: NIN - Ranged attack as 1st gcd DRG - Gap close MNK - Gap close RPR - Ranged attack + Gap close.. come on.

+ all the other obvious stuff.

Stop adding charges to things be more creative idk.

Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

There's a survey for the 10th anniversary up on the lodestone. They ask about your main job and have a 500 character section that you could probably use to forward feedback about it. Also the last question is on what you feel about XIV, iirc, so could be an opportunity to express dissatisfaction with the game in general. Chances are that it'll probably be dismissed and the main job choice will just be used to inflate whatever metrics they use so they can double down on their current design philosophy though.

Here's the link: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...4ba63654853c07

Also it's open until the 22nd of September.

Damn, you beat me to it. I expressed my love for SAM and a few grievances including the Kaiten removal. Hopefully someone someday reads it.

Originally Posted by CelestiCer

That would rise the Endwalker Stonks KEKW xD"

Well, it doesn't seem it's gonna be back just yet. I made an account in the forums just to complain about Kaiten, I want Kaiten back before 7.0 and I want it to stay.

comes back just to get removed in 7.0

Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

comes back just to get removed in 7.0

More likely whatever the melee dps job is for 7.0 will have its own Kaiten.