Thread: 6.1 SAM

I would like to start by mentioning that because of Square's refusal to give us a direct answer as to why they're changing SAM, it's rather hard to come up with alternative solutions to suggest.

Hissatsu: Kaiten being removed was likely to tone down how busy SAM gets during two minute windows. I don't agree with the idea of making jobs less busy in general but I feel like there were far better ways of doing this than stripping SAM of its core identity, (Kaiten -> Midare) such as lowering the amount of times you use Shoha and Shinten.

As for the guaranteed crits - I think along with crit variance what they also wanted to address was SAM being too good into raid buffs. There was also a better of going around this too though, by making Midare and Ogi a lower percentage of the Samurai's total dps without excluding them from party buffs outright. This would lower the importance of critting Midare and Ogi and tone down SAM's output into raid buffs.

The new Samurai gameplay just feels awful, please consider fully reverting the changes and instead slightly lowering Midare's total damage contribution to SAM's dps.

Originally Posted by Quor

Agreed. It's far easier and far better to take some of the potency off of our biggest hits and spread them elsewhere, either into our other GCD's, into Shinten or as a part of Higanbana. While they're at it, reverting the Tenka aoe shape change would be great. Not only does it hit like a wet noodle now but it's reach is terrible.

I understand some SAM players really wanting the big hit Midares but this is the best compromise we can go for.

The current SE balancing mandate is slowly ruining what is left in job complexity. TBH, they should just remove kenki at this point if all we have left is shinten spam. Such blind and lazy changes

Originally Posted by DreadfullyAwful

The current SE balancing mandate is slowly ruining what is left in job complexity. TBH, they should just remove kenki at this point if all we have left is shinten spam. Such blind and lazy changes

While that is an overarching issue, I don't think the SAM changes are the best example of them completely homogenizing and streamlining jobs to nothingness. I don't think we can argue with their new design direction, but we can still potentially get Kaiten back, and make them reconsider autocrits as good design choice.

Originally Posted by butchersblock

While that is an overarching issue, I don't think the SAM changes are the best example of them completely homogenizing and streamlining jobs to nothingness. I don't think we can argue with their new design direction, but we can still potentially get Kaiten back, and make them reconsider autocrits as good design choice.

All we can really hope is that Yoshi P holds to his word, gets wind that the people have followed his explicit advice and now the forums are buzzing with activity telling them to revert the changes. We've done our part, so the ball is in his court now. Fingers crossed he doesn't take the ball and go home with it.

Just here to add another drop to the sea asking for SAM to get Kaiten back as well as revert Tenka back to cone, as someone else I saw stated "I don't wanna eat cleaves just to make the most of my aoe," and without Kaiten SAM just feels hollow, I can't bring myself to play one of my top favorite jobs, I just don't enjoy it anymore.

I’m gonna wind up becoming a DRG main at this point. We need all these changes reverted. If SE’s design team would explain to us what their goal is for SAM, maybe we could work together on a solution. We need Kaiten back. We need the cone back on Tenka Goken. Smoothing out the DPS on SAM has ruined the theme of the job, because our finishers now hit like wet noodles. Even if SAM had the highest DPS numbers in the game right now, I wouldn’t play it because of how bad it feels.