Thread: Compiled SAM threads against 6.1 changes / Kaiten removal

Originally Posted by CelestiCer

Job identity varies from player to player, since it correlates heavily to what they can relate to. For our Samurai job? I believe the identities of Samurai were that of a Melee job that...

• Top performs (A/R)DPS
• Uses windup animations and long cast times as the Melee caster
• Builds up resources and executes big hard-hitting Strikes
• The job that provides nothing to any Party/Raid except more Damage
• Aesthetically is a Samurai with a Katana regardless of gameplay/rotation

Anything but the last cosmetic thing in the list, unrelated to combat gameplay? Then you're correct. YES, 6.1 SAM changes pretty much butchered the Job's identities most players perceived it had. I as a (for now, not a MNK player yet) only Samurai player can definitely attest that it ruined a lot of what Samurai was to me.

In fact? I actually don't know what the intended Job identity was of Samurai from the Dev's pov as far as PvE combat goes, other then " it needs to hold and flail a Katana ".

Better work on your stabbin', Roberto. You know, with a katana. Because a curved edged weapon was totally meant to stab things like a spear.

Originally Posted by Ruminous

Better work on your stabbin', Roberto. You know, with a katana. Because a curved edged weapon was totally meant to stab things like a spear.

I hate that poke so much! It's so ridiculous. Poke! I didn't like it before, and I like it less now.

Originally Posted by ValkyrieL

Job identity was lost, SAM could be #1 in Adps/Rdps but that's not the point, the point is that is just feels completely different without it, sadge.

No it is not,

Loss of job identity is to strip a whole job anew.

Not a mention about fixing SAM or reverting or feedback or anything in the liveletter. I think I'm quitting after this sub period, boys. It's been a fun ride.

y'know, at the very least they should revert to 6.08 if only because the backlash from this has caused them to commit to expansion reworks only. the fuck should we be stuck waiting for two years for them to possibly fix their own fuck-up for?

Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

y'know, at the very least they should revert to 6.08 if only because the backlash from this has caused them to commit to expansion reworks only. the fuck should we be stuck waiting for two years for them to possibly fix their own fuck-up for?

Yep. I don't understand the need to remove abilities that restrict the developers from expanding on job in future expansions..1 odd patch after Endwalker comes out when we have plenty of life left in this expansion before any major changes happen

Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn

y'know, at the very least they should revert to 6.08 if only because the backlash from this has caused them to commit to expansion reworks only. the fuck should we be stuck waiting for two years for them to possibly fix their own fuck-up for?

hmm or we go ourselves into Game Development and recreate 6.08 Samurai in an Tabtarget RPG, I mean if they don't bring back Kaiten, we shall!
.. I may need the Kenki gain values from every action though, they are untouched still, which is important to replicate.

I'm still trying to wrap my head about which dumbass dev decided it was a good idea to remove Kaiten. I just don't understand it.

Originally Posted by Kira_Yaeger

I'm still trying to wrap my head about which dumbass dev decided it was a good idea to remove Kaiten. I just don't understand it.

I'm trying to wrap my head around who decided it was smart to make a casted melee aoe be a circle instead of staying a cone! But I guess if I ever pick up SAM again, I'll let myself die in the wall to wall pulls because I need to do optimal dps to the whole pack.