Say no to Cross-world group finders

[Cendres]

Sure, this is what every MMO is turning into anyways. Not sure why casual players can't go play games intended for them or something -_-

You mean like this game? I'm not sure why you're hell bent on playing a game that was meant from inception to be a casual friendly game and alternative to FFXI. /shrug Who knows? The graphics are too pretty? Just can't stay away from a game that obviously disappoints you people at every turn?

The mind it boggles.

On topic, I don't see a problem with this feature IF it is implemented better then in the past, it's a fairly new concept to the MMO world, like new things it's going to need adjustments. The random grouping 'matching' thing needs to go and hopefully the devs gives the player control on who to invite. Being able to play with people across servers is an intriguing thing, it just needs to be tweaked so it's not automated.

[snowstriker]

Just give us a seek party flag and a way to actually search people by zone, class, and level please. Honestly these two things were awesome in FFXI. I'd feel awful if shit was just done for me mindlessly

[Cendres]

Just give us a seek party flag and a way to actually search people by zone, class, and level please. Honestly these two things were awesome in FFXI. I'd feel awful if shit was just done for me mindlessly

So really what we should be saying is say no to automated parties for dungeons. Now THAT I can get around. While it's fun in a game like let's say Vindictus, imo anyway, that can be disastrous in a game like FFXIV especially if some of those dungeons need coordination that would be uber frustrating.

[Jinko]

Sure, this is what every MMO is turning into anyways. Not sure why casual players can't go play games intended for them or something -_-

LOL what like this one you mean !!

Edit:- I just realised you're on my server. lol

[chime85]

On topic, I don't see a problem with this feature IF it is implemented better then in the past, it's a fairly new concept to the MMO world, like new things it's going to need adjustments. The random grouping 'matching' thing needs to go and hopefully the devs gives the player control on who to invite. Being able to play with people across servers is an intriguing thing, it just needs to be tweaked so it's not automated.

The thing is, it's not the actual feature that is the problem, It will readily form parties at a few clicks. I can see the appeal in that.

What IS the problem is the baggage and the damage to the game which comes with it. For example, what kind of controls would you want on this? and how would they be implimented?

Also, what exactly IS wrong with seeking a party in your own server? have you considered perhaps that a more streamline party finder for your server might be more effective? You will be able to keep a strong community with that option, rather than run into people who see cross-server parties as an invitation to act inapropriately

[Skeeter]

I've experienced it in other games and I am against it. I've posted why in two other threads already though.

[Cendres]

Also, what exactly IS wrong with seeking a party in your own server? have you considered perhaps that a more streamline party finder for your server might be more effective? You will be able to keep a strong community with that option, rather than run into people who see cross-server parties as an invitation to act inapropriately

Given on how close the FF community is, on the same server or not, this behavior is NOT something I would see being rampant for this game. A free to play MMO? Hells yes absolutely, in WoW? Well of course, but this is not those games. No matter which server you land on in FFXI or FFXIV a certain conduct is expected of you, I don't see how cross server dungeon raiding would change that. Anonymity is a fleeting thing, with these forums, the lodestone and communities like Fantaji we are growing more and more into a very global community where there is no place to hide.

The devs do read or have people read and report our suggestions to them, so if they see automated grouping is NOT something that we want we can hope they come up with a better system. The concept of cross server grouping is a good one, like public quests in Warhammer but the implementation could be a lot better and honestly I think the community as a whole would be better served if we can come up with ways it could work instead of putting up walls and road blocks at every new feature the dev team thinks would be cool to add.

A robust LFG group feature is something we direly need and that should come first, and I'm convinced it will, depending on how great it is I hope they can take it to cross server dungeon seeking as well. So giving control to the player on who to pick perhaps even sending a /tell across servers before hand, in fact while I'm there maybe it would be a good idea to start with cross server chatting like in EQ2 first, and cross server friend's list and then progress to cross server dungeons.

I'm just really all for more option and more people to play with, I understand random PUGs can suck I have had many of them, but the solution in my opinion is not to completely disregard the option. There will come a time when or a time of day even when someone can't find anyone on their server to help them out in a dungeon. I was reading the other day about a person who couldn't do promys or something like that in FFXI for a long time because there was never anyone on when they played... That's just an example of how it could be helpful.

[chime85]

Say yes to Cross-world group finder

1. It will not destroy communities especially when some servers are highly populated and others aren't.

2. You already most likely play with a decent LS and noone is going to force you to use the cross server feature. I will likely never use the feature unless I sign on at an odd time and just want to run a quick dungeon.

3. Enough said.

yes, i was aware of the counter-thread very quickly lol both make interesting reads

1) yes it will, all people will do all day will sit in a localised spot in a city and wait until their party request pings. No matter who is needing the same as them, it will be considered "effort and a waste of time" to simply ask a few people standing right next to them

2) Seeking new players is the spirit of an MMO. Yes, you can argue that cross-server parties will aid that, however...

.....It gives no chance for companionship or any method of forming any sort of frienship and comradery. It will stagnate the social influence of the servers.

If they did not wish to have server based communities, why have servers at all?

With all the problems cross-server partys bring, is it really worth using that to save 20 mins talking to people who are standing a few steps away?

Kimiko x

[Mack]

Whats next "we should not interact with one another ?"

If tomorrow they said they were merging all the server into one massive one I think you would think differently.



No I think people over react over the slightest thing on these forums, this is no different.

Exmaple:-

If it was in WoW, it sucks, Don't want it !
If it wasn't in FF11 it isn't as good, Don't want it !
If its not something I'm familiar or used to, Don't want it !

The list goes on and on.

I think half the charm of an MMO is talking to other people and building a community, I'm sorry if you feel differently but your argument isn't great and you're the one blowing it out of proportion. Server merging and instantly getting grouped up with people, run a dungeon, and never see those people again are completely different considering merging servers makes those people on your server. And where did you get people "didn't wanna play with each other"? people against it have a valid argument.

[chime85]

Well simply don't use the feature if you don't like it, you ain't gotta whine about it.

With the feature being implimented, having a choice will be a mute point. Nobody would bother talking to each other due to the "quick and easy option". On that point, it is why it will destroy communities, nobody will talk to each other!


Additional:

I just realised you're on my server. lol

You're on my server to, we should join up and party some time. feel free to put me on your contact list if you want