Say no to Cross-world group finders

[PeppinoTuna]

I hate to reference a different MMORPG in my posts, but there is a recent MMORPG that came out with a similar system that I am very familiar with. I played Forsaken World through Closed Beta into Open Beta (PWE games never surpass OB as they stay in OB for years until they shutdown.)

In FW there is a cross-world party system for dungeons and you'll often find that seriously stupid nubs (NUBS! SERIOUSLY STUPID NUBS!!!!!) will sign up for a dungeon and then after they enter inform everyone that the armor and food and potions and brains are in their Bank (retainer).

We also found nubs that would join in, do their part in the dungeon, and run off with the armor that the rest of the party wanted for one specific player in the party.

Oh my god, can't forget the guy that gets into a party wipe 5 minutes into the dungeon and then starts screaming, "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!" I hate that guy...

Then there were the nubs that would join in during the dungeon and then after it's going on and we start having fun, they start screwing everything up. They flick that switch under their computer desks and turn into the stupidest 9 year old (no offense to intelligent 9 year olds) that you'll ever play a game with. Running into mobs, luring mobs to everyone's death. Dieing and starting back at the beginning of the map or not healing the group because they would rather fight than cure...

There are so many situations where I've seen parties crash and burn to the ground like the Hindenburg zeppelin because of the cross world group finders for dungeons.


While yes, I must acknowledge that a cross-world group finder will help with finding parties for dungeons and make new friends and help to acquire new items in the game, there are also massive downsides that must be considered. In my opinion, the downsides outweigh the positives.

I would rather see a single NPC or NPC area where people can meet up and start a group, then run/teleport to a dungeon together. This would allow players to meet their party members before embarking on a dangerous adventure.

I would rather see people shouting for a party/members or with linkshell members and entering dungeons with friends as opposed to complete strangers.

[chime85]

Agreed. Keep it all inside the server. I want to group with people I see all the time. I guess I could if they did implement the system but then again no one would want to take the time to form anything with me if they can have it all in seconds.

Exactly, it discourages communication in an MMo, which personaly i think goes against the grain of the MMO to begin with lol

Also, as you pointed out, nobody would be bothered to talk with ppl to form parties. This cross-server system would promote player laziness. At what point will that decline cease?

Additional: PeppinTuna's post is a prime example of the points i made earlier

[Jinko]

Wow its unlike these forums to blow things out of proportion /sarcasm

I don't care either way, as long as they have auto grouping I don't care if its cross server or just on my world.

[Mack]

Wow its unlike these forums to blow things out of proportion /sarcasm

I don't care either way, as long as they have auto grouping I don't care if its cross server or just on my world.

Do you think people reflecting on their own experiences with it are lying?

[Verecund]

My main concern with any cross-realms instancing is that it really dilutes the communities of individual servers by putting them in to a sort've global pseudo-community (anyone who played WoW can attest to this). The same effect will probably happen if implemented to FFXIV, though most likely due to a lesser effect since it has no PvP or end-game 'raiding' (which were pretty much the staples of in-game communal growth for WoW, from my PoV... cross-realming for PvP anonymized a close-knit, competitive community, and cross-realming for dungeons did certainly encourage ninjas and morons, though I don't think this game will have a huge problem with that given the general community).

The one perk is that it makes things more accessible for dying servers by pooling all the populations into a cross-realms instance queue. Hopefully it doesn't come to that months down the road, after subscriptions are implemented

Edit - We should really wait and see on this one I think. At current, almost every "party" I've seen in the search queue has been someone advertising for an LS in Japanese... but if the population issues are ameliorated after a strong PS3 launch, they won't have to implement cross-realms features because of this sort of thing. Also, I think this game is in desperate need of an in-game LS advertisement channel =3

[JayvirDeforte]

I hate this idea. We just should not interact with other servers

[Jinko]

I hate this idea. We just should not interact with other servers

Whats next "we should not interact with one another ?"

If tomorrow they said they were merging all the server into one massive one I think you would think differently.

Do you think people reflecting on their own experiences with it are lying?

No I think people over react over the slightest thing on these forums, this is no different.

Exmaple:-

If it was in WoW, it sucks, Don't want it !
If it wasn't in FF11 it isn't as good, Don't want it !
If its not something I'm familiar or used to, Don't want it !

The list goes on and on.

[JackDaniels]

Honestly we may aswell play a one player game if we are going to have cross-server auto grouping..

[Sinzfeldt]

Nay.

10char

[Shiyo]

Honestly we may aswell play a one player game if we are going to have cross-server auto grouping..

Sure, this is what every MMO is turning into anyways. Not sure why casual players can't go play games intended for them or something -_-