On the recent letter

[DoctorMog]

There isn't an MMO alive with "thought provoking" combat. There's a best way to do everything in every game, people find it, execute best strategy, win.

Maybe you misunderstood what I mean by thought provoking combat.

Combat efficiency (what you are talking about) and engaging/thought provoking combat (what I mean) are two different things.

Combat effiency
Drakes die fastest from water spells. Only use water spells.
Kill eyes from behind to avoid gaze.

Engaging combat
Manage resources. TP, MP, HP, Cooldowns, Sprint etc.
Observe position for an advantage. Don't stand in front of dragons, don't stand next to healer, watch distance etc.
A diverse skill rotation. Using additional skills for their additional benefits over straight damage. Gravity, DoT, stun etc.
Monster groups and monster types (abilities) change combat dynamically.

What I don't want in 2.0 is
Stationary combat
best dps skill used repeatedly
lack of resource management
Oversimplified monster mechanics / non diverse skills for monsters.

[Dragonheart]

I think SE needs to watch that video very closely.

Or Wildstar might just have half their subscriptions.

Double jump is meaningless. But the use of the dodge mechanic, and jump mechanic used to avoid enemy attacks adds a TON of emergent gameplay that FFXIV will not have.

Sprint on it's own meter in Wildstar means melee aren't at a disadvantage in pvp. (Why does sprint cost TP in FFXIV?) If it's because mages can't move when casting, then let them move...
(No NDA breaking, shown here: http://youtu.be/_N4G854ANo0?t=2m51s)

Example: Mage vs melee start fight with full TP.
Melee uses TP move on mage.
mage sprints off.
melee has no TP to sprint after mage.
Wat.

And lastly, that combat looks fun, engaging and doesn't appear to hold your hand and treat you like an idiot.

I'm liking the looks of Wildstar. I really hope SE is watching.

ARR needs to do better than the competition, not just meet it. Otherwise it will be outshined as soon as a new game comes out that steps the genre one step further.
(yeah, that needs to be bold)

Thanks for your opinion, that is what i think too.

ARR it's a 2013 game, with old style mechanics (i hope that it will reach at least the WoW encounters speaking of mechanics depth.. it will be already a BIG goal) ... Anyway compared to the new games, it feels old without any doubt. Almost every new game it's more player skill based than gear based (look at GW2) .

Last OT on Wildstar, i'm really looking forward it, it's made by big team where 15-20 members are ex blizzard (till TBC),
also it will be an hardcore game as the devs recently stated. They want to make hard raids where ppl will wipes a lot, class trinity still present (not like GW2..) etc etc.

[Abriael]

TARR it's a 2013 game, with old style mechanics (i hope that it will reach at least the WoW encounters speaking of mechanics depth.. it will be already a BIG goal) ... Anyway compared to the new games, it feels old without any doubt.

NDA.

You don't know how it feels, and if you do know, you can't talk about it.

Also, "old" is nothing more than a meaningless catchword in game development. A mechanic isn't more or less valid or fun depending on its age.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

NDA.

You don't know how it feels, and if you do know, you can't talk about it.

Also, "old" is nothing more than a meaningless catchphrase in game development. A mechanic isn't more or less valid or fun depending on its age.

Indeed. Go ask Mario if he should stop stomping koopas

[Kallera]

Not everyone is going to be satisfied with whatever combat system they release. That's pretty much a given. But there must also be a system that new players can pick up on and use. This won't become DFO, and from the released videos I'm confident it won't become Invictus, at least not without gross game changes delaying release by months.

[Zenaku]

And here's where you're wrong. Press outlets and some fansites have been specifically authorized by Square Enix to talk about the beta in a preview. The NDA remains for everyone else.

So yeah, all of it is still fully under NDA until SE says it isn't, as the articles should have duly specified.

well then the people at eorzeapedia are wrong for saying that then. If a press outlet talk about something that in beta which was under NDA and then people listen to that press outlet then all that information in turn should no longer be under NDA. Because everyone can easy just listen to the press outlet and get that information.

That all i'm saying there still a lot of things under NDA but most of the thing talk by the press outlet should no longer be under NDA. I understand that you need SE to tell us otherwise so it best not to talk about it just in case you talk about something that is under NDA. But really this close to Beta3 with or without SE ok it does not really matter that much.

[Abriael]

well then the people at eorzeapedia are wrong for saying that then. If a press outlet talk about something that in beta which was under NDA and then people listen to that press outlet then all that information in turn should no longer be under NDA. Because everyone can easy just listen to the press outlet and get that information.

That all i'm saying there still a lot of things under NDA but most of the thing talk by the press outlet should no longer be under NDA. I understand that you need SE to tell us otherwise so it best not to talk about it just in case you talk about something that is under NDA. But really this close to Beta3 with or without SE ok it does not really matter that much.

Those people have been expressly authorized by Square Enix to talk about it despite the NDA (and only within the preview), as was specified by many of the outlets that posted previews. You haven't been authorized to do so, hence you shouldn't.

The NDA on the whole content of beta 1 and beta 2 (and alpha) is still fully in place, and SE was very clear about it. That's all there's to it.

[Zenaku]

Those people have been expressly authorized by Square Enix to talk about it despite the NDA (and only within the preview), as was specified by many of the outlets that posted previews. You haven't been authorized to do so, hence you shouldn't.

The NDA on the whole content of beta 1 and beta 2 (and alpha) is still fully in place, and SE was very clear about it. That's all there's to it.

listen to there podcast they said anything they talk about is no longer under NDA. That where i got it from not saying your wrong just thinking who is right now lol.

But yes at the end we still under NDA but should not really matter that much now that my point.

[Abriael]

listen to there podcast they said anything they talk about is no longer under NDA. That where i got it from not saying your wrong just thinking who is right now lol.

http://gamerescape.com/2013/04/22/ae...e-qa-incoming/

Notice the clear note evidenced at the bottom: *The NDA is still in effect, Gamer Escape has received permission from Square Enix to answer questions regarding the beta test.

But yes at the end we still under NDA but should not really matter that much now that my point.

It matters until Square Enix says it doesn't.

[Zenaku]

http://gamerescape.com/2013/04/22/ae...e-qa-incoming/

Notice the clear note evidenced at the bottom: *The NDA is still in effect, Gamer Escape has received permission from Square Enix to answer questions regarding the beta test.



It matters until Square Enix says it doesn't.

Once again i agree with you i'm just saying does not really matter at this point if SE say it or not "opinion". So let's just end this here ok.

Thank you.