Paladin vs Warrior - ARR better set roles!

[Reika]

After reading this response I now know that you don't understand what makes rampart a strong hate ability.

The strength in Rampart hate is based on hitting your party members with it. Each party member it hits, gives rampart a larger hate boost. If I could be bothered I would hunt around for the BG post about the specifics, however AoE rampart is a GLD trait. WAR's using Rampart are self-buff only, therefore it generates very little hate. (Less then even a provoke or flash).

I know that part of rampart, but i have observed a fight where the paladin did not actively try to keep agro on garuda after hitting the whole party with rampart and lost agro within 15 seconds, the only real way to keep it after that is with a spirits within combo and then constantly using hate abilities whenever they are ready. Unfortunantly for paladin, they only have 1 that hits multiple targets on 30 seconds, which doesnt produce as much hate as a damaging ability (SC) and one on 60 seconds, which I never witnesed doing what it says it does and need a block (Wardrum). Rampart doesn't do the whole job. Even tho rampart for a warrior only effects itself, it still produces more agro, then antagonize + SC with or without combo will do better than a paladins party rampart and flash on multiple targets, because SW can only hit one thing. And then the warrior is capable if dealing damage to multiple targets in front with their parry counter WS. I have had the fun of tring to test out both paladin and warrior at 50 in natalan, since I really wanted to see if paladin could truely hold the hate against multiples. Rampart didn't save anyone on paladin, and its cooldown is too long to be practical in those situations.