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    Player Rex's Avatar
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    Rex Xylon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Just putting it on the list would be a massive cop out. I'm sorry folks, but that's just lazy, especially considering the size of the team they have right now.
    You didn't need to unlock any of the other classes.....Classes are basically weapon changes. It would be weird to have to LEARN how to hold a.....book.


    You'll have to unlock Summoner.

    After all the work they've done and you're going to accuse them of a "massive cop out"? Give me a break. Show some appreciation.
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    You didn't need to unlock any of the other classes.....Classes are basically weapon changes. It would be weird to have to LEARN how to hold a.....book.


    You'll have to unlock Summoner.

    After all the work they've done and you're going to accuse them of a "massive cop out"? Give me a break. Show some appreciation.
    After all the work they've done? HA. You mean, the work they should have done in the first place? Appreciation is earned pal.

    It's not wrong to expect that Arcanist would have needed to been unlocked in some fashion. It should not be a base class because it wasn't put in at launch. What was stopping me from putting on an Arcanist weapon before? How come I can now all of a sudden? I don't find this acceptable. New classes/jobs should have an unlock quest. Base class or not.

    Given the size of the team, and how their other games dev cycles are being slowed down to a crawl because of this mess. I expect quality, not quick and easy.
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    Za'karn Riskbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    After all the work they've done? HA. You mean, the work they should have done in the first place? Appreciation is earned pal.

    It's not wrong to expect that Arcanist would have needed to been unlocked in some fashion. It should not be a base class because it wasn't put in at launch. What was stopping me from putting on an Arcanist weapon before? How come I can now all of a sudden? I don't find this acceptable. New classes/jobs should have an unlock quest. Base class or not.

    Given the size of the team, and how their other games dev cycles are being slowed down to a crawl because of this mess. I expect quality, not quick and easy.
    lol, all of a sudden? i guess 5 years is pretty fast...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    lol, all of a sudden? i guess 5 years is pretty fast...
    Perhaps that was a poor choice of words on my part. However you get the drift. Why so few Arcanist's before, and now everyone is invited to take up the book? These are things they could have explained through an introductory quest. Learning the first few spells and gaining some background knowledge on the roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Perhaps that was a poor choice of words on my part. However you get the drift. Why so few Arcanist's before, and now everyone is invited to take up the book? These are things they could have explained through an introductory quest. Learning the first few spells and gaining some background knowledge on the roll.
    i dont see why this is a reason to get you panties in a twist. ther were lots of people in 1.0 that maxed their jobs and classes. this at least gives them something to do that will give them the full 2.0 experience. dont come down on this so hard. i'm sure future expansions will be something to work for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    i dont see why this is a reason to get you panties in a twist. ther were lots of people in 1.0 that maxed their jobs and classes. this at least gives them something to do that will give them the full 2.0 experience. dont come down on this so hard. i'm sure future expansions will be something to work for.
    I'm not mad at them honestly, but i'm disappointed. I have high standards. I figured people would have been on board with a quest, considering how much people have been begging for more solo oriented lore quests/leveling. This forum really confuses me a lot.

    Anyways, I must retire for the evening because i'm tired.
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    Cynthis Ravenbrook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Perhaps that was a poor choice of words on my part. However you get the drift. Why so few Arcanist's before, and now everyone is invited to take up the book? These are things they could have explained through an introductory quest. Learning the first few spells and gaining some background knowledge on the roll.
    I fully expect this to be explained at the guild when I get my first book, just like the history behind the other guilds was explained when I picked up my first weapon there. Since getting the first weapon is always accompanied by getting a simple quest, in essence you are getting this already.
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Perhaps that was a poor choice of words on my part. However you get the drift. Why so few Arcanist's before, and now everyone is invited to take up the book? These are things they could have explained through an introductory quest. Learning the first few spells and gaining some background knowledge on the roll.
    *cough* class quests...
    Nothing in the game is happening in realtime. And they cant add everything, just cause you want it; or add explanatory quests just cause you want reasons
    the arcanist guild was there from the start, so you were supposed to be able to pick it up from the start, or early on; but they never got around to adding it. that's devs faulght, not some lore issue. The ARR team don't need to add lore to cover up a screw-up on 1.0 teams part. And if you wanna be picky every class should need an introductory quest chain to unlock. But if you got Arcanist as STARTING class, your char obviously has it's own background story, and reason for being Arcanist, and being there *wherever you start the game*
    On a side note i find it funny people complaining about stuff in a game, they havn't even played yet; so how do you know how it will be? you only know you can start off as Arcanist, and that's no stranger than starting off as THM or anything else.
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