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    Quote Originally Posted by ZakarnRosewood View Post
    wait... what? You mean allowing it to be a starting class?
    Yes, even the early FF games with a job system you had to do some kind of work to unlock them, and no you can't say "but this is FFXIV", it is lazy, but as I've said before, they designed themselves into a corner with the armory system so this fits with that design.

    Hopefully SMN makes it worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yes, even the early FF games with a job system you had to do some kind of work to unlock them, and no you can't say "but this is FFXIV", it is lazy, but as I've said before, they designed themselves into a corner with the armory system so this fits with that design.

    Hopefully SMN makes it worthwhile.
    So they are making ANC a starting class whats your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    So they are making ANC a starting class whats your point?
    Well I'll let you know when you tell me what 'ANC' is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Well I'll let you know when you tell me what 'ANC' is.
    I think he means "arcanist"... Since there is no "n" between "a" and "c", I would think "ARN" or "ART" is better since ARC is taken by archer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Well I'll let you know when you tell me what 'ANC' is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirito View Post
    I think he means "arcanist"... Since there is no "n" between "a" and "c", I would think "ARN" or "ART" is better since ARC is taken by archer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzertroll View Post
    (zoom and search)

    Maybe you should as well >_~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yes, even the early FF games with a job system you had to do some kind of work to unlock them, and no you can't say "but this is FFXIV", it is lazy, but as I've said before, they designed themselves into a corner with the armory system so this fits with that design.

    Hopefully SMN makes it worthwhile.
    Oh but how wrong you are as usual....class does not have special treatment in FFXIV you just buy the lvl 1 weapon and go to it's guild to learn about it...IT'S the Jobs that require quests/missions/tough fights to unlock as it is an specialty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    Oh but how wrong you are as usual....class does not have special treatment in FFXIV you just buy the lvl 1 weapon and go to it's guild to learn about it...IT'S the Jobs that require quests/missions/tough fights to unlock as it is an specialty
    Does that make it any less lazy though? How does anything you just said prove her wrong? lol

    Anyway, I wonder how they'll handle any subsequent classes. I mean, in this case it kinda makes sense, I guess, since guilds had been established for ever and it should've been in the game since long ago, but what about future ones without a guild? I hope they won't just pop out of nowhere after you just equip a new weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yes, even the early FF games with a job system you had to do some kind of work to unlock them, and no you can't say "but this is FFXIV", it is lazy, but as I've said before, they designed themselves into a corner with the armory system so this fits with that design.

    Hopefully SMN makes it worthwhile.
    Eeyore strikes again with complete disregard for another post explaining myself!

    Zakarnrosewood
    As for the "massive cop out" they wanted to try to balance out the DoW and DoM classes, so far there are only two DoM's to start. I'm glad they are providing more starting options. I also agree that with a future expansion if they decided to add in new classes that having the guild in a new city you would need to go and earn that class. I'm fine with that, in fact I encourage that. But for this single new job they are adding in at launch of ARR, I'm glad its a starter.
    I don't see it as lazy, I see it as an extra tidbit of new content for the 1.0 players for when 2.0 starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Yes, even the early FF games with a job system you had to do some kind of work to unlock them, and no you can't say "but this is FFXIV", it is lazy, but as I've said before, they designed themselves into a corner with the armory system so this fits with that design.

    Hopefully SMN makes it worthwhile.
    Arcanist was planned as starter class since last beta. Only Tanaka couldn't deliver it.
    Every class who has already a guild in 1.x should be a starter class. Musketeer is still missing.
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