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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    They are simple ideas, I feel bad if you think Yoshida's team cant mentally handle turn radius / rate.

    Yes games are not instant, but also people WAY overestimate the time to take certain things (specially things code related and not graphic related).
    I feel like I'm talking to a wall.

    If the entire development team worked on this one idea of yours, sure, I'm sure it wouldn't take long. The entire development team, however, is not going to work on this one idea of yours. For the time that that small section of the development team IS working on that one idea of yours, they are sacrificing time on which they could be implementing or improving something else.

    As someone said above "Interesting, but put it on the backburner". That person has sense. There are much more important things for the next year or two that need to be dealt with instead of something like this, regardless of if you support it or not.

    I just don't think it's necessary, so no I don't support it. If it's implemented? Tough titty for me, but I won't care as long as the rest of the game is polished and fantastic. This is an idea that shouldn't come for a LONG time yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallivis View Post
    I feel like I'm talking to a wall.

    If the entire development team worked on this one idea of yours, sure, I'm sure it wouldn't take long. The entire development team, however, is not going to work on this one idea of yours. For the time that that small section of the development team IS working on that one idea of yours, they are sacrificing time on which they could be implementing or improving something else.

    As someone said above "Interesting, but put it on the backburner". That person has sense. There are much more important things for the next year or two that need to be dealt with instead of something like this, regardless of if you support it or not.

    I just don't think it's necessary, so no I don't support it. If it's implemented? Tough titty for me, but I won't care as long as the rest of the game is polished and fantastic. This is an idea that shouldn't come for a LONG time yet.
    The wall feeling is mutual.

    I also think they need to get the game to a solid point, but I do think they should have this in mind - and preferably ready for whoever coder is sitting around waiting for a new job since this would require code and not really any other resource (unless they include ablities which was an aside idea - abilities would require artists... and depending on their pipeline / artists other work could mean much longer delays).

    Btw, I told the person "later" that I agreed. I never said right now. Though I do believe its something one programmer could do in their off time over a few weeks.
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    "If the entire development team worked on this one idea of yours, sure, I'm sure it wouldn't take long. The entire development team, however, is not going to work on this one idea of yours. For the time that that small section of the development team IS working on that one idea of yours, they are sacrificing time on which they could be implementing or improving something else."


    I'm sure 2-5 out of the 300 members on the team can look into this and do it..no need for the entire team...a little hyperbole, are we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    That is what you say in the first post (which gives Warlock his point), but to be fair you do change your tone later on

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    its a unknown factor and shutting someone down on that reason is pretty bad
    I will quote what I said.

    Waste of development, imo. I would rather more focus on story and side content and further development on things already in place as opposed to developing a completely new, unnecessary system out of thin air.
    Tiny variables or not, it doesn't matter. Neither you nor myself are on the development team. In the sense that I cannot say this will be difficult to implement, you cannot say it would be easy to implement.

    What is definitely true, however, is the concept of opportunity cost and this has been in effect since the beginning of time. Yoshida has even brought up the issues with production costs in many of his letters and in responses to peoples' ideas. It's not like I'm speaking of some fairy tale.

    My issue on this matter is, to put simply:

    1) I do not agree with the system and feel it is completely unnecessary for the reasons I said in my first couple of posts.

    2) There are much more important things to be worried about right now. If the idea is to be executed, it should be done way down the line from now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    "If the entire development team worked on this one idea of yours, sure, I'm sure it wouldn't take long. The entire development team, however, is not going to work on this one idea of yours. For the time that that small section of the development team IS working on that one idea of yours, they are sacrificing time on which they could be implementing or improving something else."


    I'm sure 2-5 out of the 300 members on the team can look into this and do it..no need for the entire team...a little hyperbole, are we?
    I find it laughable how I am 90% positive you read only the first one or two lines of my posts and then make some stupid reply completely irrelevant to what I was talking about. Actually in this case you didn't even read the first line you SOMEHOW leaped over the first line and landed on the second sentence. Did you use one of these special mounts talked about in the OP to do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallivis View Post
    I find it laughable.
    I find it more laughable how delusional you are thinking you can manage Yoshida and the 300 members of his team's time better and catalog things that are and aren't a waste of development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlock View Post
    I find it more laughable how delusional you are thinking you can manage Yoshida and the 300 members of his team's time better and catalog things that are and aren't a waste of development.
    Yeah because I definitely said that.
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