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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    That doesn't work so well when you're a company dealing with paying customers. It's called losing customer trust. Which is exactly what Square Enix should avoid like the plague, given its recent history.
    Annnnnd were all here still :P. I feel when beta comes around you be still going on about this Alpha nonsense, it's over.. deal with it geez..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Annnnnd were all here still :P. I feel when beta comes around you be still going on about this Alpha nonsense, it's over.. deal with it geez..
    "deal with it" is what some said when FFXIV was released in its abysmal state. "deal with it" is not exactly the right approach when talking about this kind of things, as it gives companies leave to do whatever the hell they want, no matter what they promise or pubblicize, which is obviously bad business.

    Losing customer trust doesn't necessarily mean the customers will immediately ragequit, but it does add up, and Square Enix already has a rather extensive history of taking the hammer to their customer's trust in their decision making ability. The sensitive course of action would be to just stop doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    "deal with it" is what some said when FFXIV was released in its abysmal state. "deal with it" is not exactly the right approach when talking about this kind of things, as it gives companies leave to do whatever the hell they want, no matter what they promise or pubblicize, which is obviously bad business.

    Losing customer trust doesn't necessarily mean the customers will immediately ragequit, but it does add up, and Square Enix already has a rather extensive history of taking the hammer to their customer's trust in their decision making ability. The sensitive course of action would be to just stop doing that.
    Yep, this proves you won't stop thanks for the Clarification
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Yep, this proves you won't stop thanks for the Clarification
    I'm sure some white knights would love for all the criticism to stop. Unfortunately, there's no reason for it to happen in this case, as the situation hasn't been addressed or amended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    I'm sure some white knights would love for all the criticism to stop. Unfortunately, there's no reason for it to happen in this case, as the situation hasn't been addressed or amended.
    And it shouldn't be addressed at all, it's a little silly tbh

    Edit: Can't you just be happy for once that Alpha went smoothly, and that the game is on it's way to success? ( I think I'm asking to much on this one)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    "deal with it" is what some said when FFXIV was released in its abysmal state. "deal with it" is not exactly the right approach when talking about this kind of things, as it gives companies leave to do whatever the hell they want, no matter what they promise or pubblicize, which is obviously bad business.

    Losing customer trust doesn't necessarily mean the customers will immediately ragequit, but it does add up, and Square Enix already has a rather extensive history of taking the hammer to their customer's trust in their decision making ability. The sensitive course of action would be to just stop doing that.
    Loosing what trust? He said months ago he wanted people who was not playing the game to join, get that through your head. They are taking feed back so what happened with 1.0 wont happen with 2.0 cause you did not get in the alpha, they have plenty of feed back from tons of players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    And it shouldn't be addressed at all, it's a little silly tbh
    A company telling something to its customers and then doing something else is definitely not "silly", not even a little.

    Edit: Can't you just be happy for once that Alpha went smoothly, and that the game is on it's way to success? ( I think I'm asking to much on this one)
    As a matter of fact. I have no idea if the Alpha went smoothly. Working on blind faith proved a bad choice once already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Loosing what trust?
    When a company tells X to its paying customers and then does Y which happens to be the opposite of X, a percentage of those customers will lose a certain amount of trust in that company. It's a very simple and straightforward marketing rule.

    What Yoshida may or may not have said in some obscure interview somewhere doesn't really matter, as the paying customer isn't held to the responsibility or reading every single interview he gives or every forum post he makes. On the other hand, all of those that applied are to read the clauses of the application, which makes it the only applicable rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    A company telling something to its customers and then doing something else is definitely not "silly", not even a little.



    As a matter of fact. I have no idea if the Alpha went smoothly. Working on blind faith proved a bad choice once already.



    When a company tells X to its paying customers and then does Y which happens to be the opposite of X, a percentage of those customers will lose a certain amount of trust in that company. It's a very simple and straightforward marketing rule.
    I just see your just butt hurt over no alpha invite done with this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I just see your just butt hurt over no alpha invite done with this thread.
    Translation of the above: "I don't have any solid argument to counter his, so I'll just personally attack him".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Translation of the above: "I don't have any solid argument to counter his, so I'll just personally attack him".
    lol. I told what they wanted from alpha right from the horses mouth and you keep making shit up, about loosing trust and all this other none sense, you are just butt hurt bro.
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