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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psykotsu View Post
    Saw that and saw this:



    Maybe you should watch it.

    I don't care about defending SE or the little fanboys/girls that post on the forums.

    I'm just against the irrational and thoughtless mentality that spreads on the forums. Whichever side I end up defending, it's cuz the other side is usually whining. :/
    I with you bro, I myself i'm not a fan of the whining and crying i see in alot of threads but..on the other side even those that are trying to stop the whining end up starting more...It would be nice if everyone got along but that won't happen as long as people always find the wrongs in other peoples statements
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    "I care nothing about who dominates the land, For me and my brethren will forever rule the skies." Forgo the Forgotten Dragoon
    Credit goes to Denmo and Nique from Masamune for this art :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    It's not about disagreement. It's because he said I'm just bored in an attempt to diminish criticism.

    And in your case it's because you said people like OP lead to the game not progressing. Actually, it's the people who try to ignore criticism and let things slide who keep the game from progressing.
    I didn't say you were bored at all. What are you talkin about?

    My statement was true. People are bored and as a result, try to create topics on minuscule subjects because they have nothin else to do. This isn't true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forgo View Post
    I with you bro, I myself i'm not a fan of the whining and crying i see in alot of threads but..on the other side even those that are trying to stop the whining end up starting more...It would be nice if everyone got along but that won't happen as long as people always find the wrongs in other peoples statements
    Yea, I guess you're right.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forgo View Post
    I think if the old style wasn't broken they would not be fixing it..i like the way its changing and it might not mean super-ohgod-duper-mega-flashly skills will get bigger and more flashly as lvls go up but maybe add the feel of power to the attack rather then...poof damage out
    What exactly was wrong with the ability effects in 1.0 anyway? I am not aware there was a huge criticism about this that led to them becoming more flashy in 2.0.
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    Ok ok hang on, I'm going super serious face for a second here.

    *ahem*

    The OP completely exaggerated the animations in the video. Nothing I have seen took up the whole screen, or blinded me with flashing lights. Frankly there wasn't a single skill I saw that even took up the whole ENEMY. It seems to me the only thing you have a legitimate complaint about is the frequency of the skills, but as that is a built in part of the new system you can kick and scream all you want but it's not going to change.

    If ANYTHING, the animations (especially the magic animations) are incredibly underwhelming. The movements haven't even changed since 1.0 for lancer, it's still the same whirl/thrust generic animation, the only thing they changed was the effects that follow. Frankly, even the jump move is exactly the same as doomspike animation.

    It's absolutely ridiculous that you can complain about even the particle effects to be honest. They're not bright and shiny, they barely even glow on most of the skills and 1/2 of them are just small, radiating circles around the mob.

    If you think what you saw on that video was "Flashy abilities" you CLEARLY have never played a korean mmo. These animations are not anything overwhelming or unreasonable.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    Even if FFXIV had the same level of flashy abilities (it doesn't it has more, bigger ones) the result would not be the same, simply because of how much more frequent they are in this system.
    Can you please mention which ability is that from the alpha video?

    The lancer lets out a yellow aura whenever a WS is used, and that doesn't even last half a second. The spiral thingy I already mentioned is the mobs move... so... I'm confused..
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psykotsu View Post
    I didn't say you were bored at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Psykotsu View Post
    Nope, you're bored, and others are too.
    You have a really bad memory.

    And boredom is irrelevant. We should be glad that people have the time to bring up various concerns.
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    he is showing symptoms of romnesia
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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    What exactly was wrong with the ability effects in 1.0 anyway? I am not aware there was a huge criticism about this that led to them becoming more flashy in 2.0.
    I think SE wanted to add more life to the effects, which in turn made them more flashy, you can't remake something perfect the first time and I think it will get better in time
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    "I care nothing about who dominates the land, For me and my brethren will forever rule the skies." Forgo the Forgotten Dragoon
    Credit goes to Denmo and Nique from Masamune for this art :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    What exactly was wrong with the ability effects in 1.0 anyway? I am not aware there was a huge criticism about this that led to them becoming more flashy in 2.0.
    Just gonna drop some of these not-so-flashy abilities that we find in 1.0. You might wanna put yours on too.







    Wish I had shades for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    You have a really bad memory.

    And boredom is irrelevant. We should be glad that people have the time to bring up various concerns.
    I guess I should have spelled it out for you, but your response to Alerith was because I said you were bored and tried to diminish your criticism but that was not true because I did not say you were bored before you labeled me as part of your little cool "SE Defense Force" claim. :/

    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    It's not about disagreement. It's because he said I'm just bored in an attempt to diminish criticism.

    And in your case it's because you said people like OP lead to the game not progressing. Actually, it's the people who try to ignore criticism and let things slide who keep the game from progressing.
    Yep.
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