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    Quote Originally Posted by Psykotsu View Post
    Saw that and saw this:



    Maybe you should watch it.

    I don't care about defending SE or the little fanboys/girls that post on the forums.

    I'm just against the irrational and thoughtless mentality that spreads on the forums. Whichever side I end up defending, it's cuz the other side is usually whining. :/
    I with you bro, I myself i'm not a fan of the whining and crying i see in alot of threads but..on the other side even those that are trying to stop the whining end up starting more...It would be nice if everyone got along but that won't happen as long as people always find the wrongs in other peoples statements
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    "I care nothing about who dominates the land, For me and my brethren will forever rule the skies." Forgo the Forgotten Dragoon
    Credit goes to Denmo and Nique from Masamune for this art :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    It's not about disagreement. It's because he said I'm just bored in an attempt to diminish criticism.

    And in your case it's because you said people like OP lead to the game not progressing. Actually, it's the people who try to ignore criticism and let things slide who keep the game from progressing.
    I didn't say you were bored at all. What are you talkin about?

    My statement was true. People are bored and as a result, try to create topics on minuscule subjects because they have nothin else to do. This isn't true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forgo View Post
    I with you bro, I myself i'm not a fan of the whining and crying i see in alot of threads but..on the other side even those that are trying to stop the whining end up starting more...It would be nice if everyone got along but that won't happen as long as people always find the wrongs in other peoples statements
    Yea, I guess you're right.
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    I guess there are some SE defence forces around in these forums, but the worst kind must be the SE hooligans.
    I've watched the video 4 times now and I don't see what casker is talking about either (Did you forget to put your glasses on? how many fingers do I hold up?. So I guess i just recruited into the SE Defence Force as well.
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    Ok ok hang on, I'm going super serious face for a second here.

    *ahem*

    The OP completely exaggerated the animations in the video. Nothing I have seen took up the whole screen, or blinded me with flashing lights. Frankly there wasn't a single skill I saw that even took up the whole ENEMY. It seems to me the only thing you have a legitimate complaint about is the frequency of the skills, but as that is a built in part of the new system you can kick and scream all you want but it's not going to change.

    If ANYTHING, the animations (especially the magic animations) are incredibly underwhelming. The movements haven't even changed since 1.0 for lancer, it's still the same whirl/thrust generic animation, the only thing they changed was the effects that follow. Frankly, even the jump move is exactly the same as doomspike animation.

    It's absolutely ridiculous that you can complain about even the particle effects to be honest. They're not bright and shiny, they barely even glow on most of the skills and 1/2 of them are just small, radiating circles around the mob.

    If you think what you saw on that video was "Flashy abilities" you CLEARLY have never played a korean mmo. These animations are not anything overwhelming or unreasonable.
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    he is showing symptoms of romnesia
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    I love the flashiness of what is 1.0's skills, though out magic was kinda lacking in that department. The skills casker mention of older FF games, they were all starter skills and abilities so they didn't have the impact of later skills. Freya's Jump was actually flashier then just jump throw lance then end. It was Jump, throw lance, land on lance, flashy impact, end. So actually rather flashy for a starting skill. As for Kain's jump well, it was basically a bread and butter attack, after all you started the game with it... for a short while. But if you are making complaints about PC skills being overly flashy, I'd like to point out that early in most later FFs, monsters had flashy skills like breath attacks and such when you barely have access to magics. IMO flashiness is good so long as it matches what you are accomplishing. FFXI's level up was rather flashy for something rather simple but it was fun and didn't feel out of place.
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    I'll just leave my signature here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I'll just leave my signature here
    Good man.

    /10
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    One reason, Alpha isn't the up to date game. It was already behind Beta before Alpha even started, and they have already stated it is incomplete and unpolished. Exactly what use is your critique when you have no clue if it is even a part of the current build? Saying "it's only Alpha" isn't a good excuse . . . for the developers. But we have no clue what the current look, systems, or content actual are in Beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexNiculaie View Post
    One reason, Alpha isn't the up to date game. It was already behind Beta before Alpha even started, and they have already stated it is incomplete and unpolished. Exactly what use is your critique when you have no clue if it is even a part of the current build? Saying "it's only Alpha" isn't a good excuse . . . for the developers. But we have no clue what the current look, systems, or content actual are in Beta.
    Same logic would apply in beta versus release. This is the kind of thinking that leads to nothing changing. It is absolutely pointless to just say "well maybe it's different now and I just don't know it yet" There is no point in waiting to tell them what you think, just because the alpha is mainly stress testing. It's not like they said "don't give us feedback on anything except the server stability"
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    Last edited by casker; 12-08-2012 at 12:01 PM.

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