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    Venat's Avatar
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    Isaac Ven
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    /Yell & Rmt counter measure

    Since we got many zones, should we get the /yell for ffxiv?
    /yell (Can shout in many zones at once if there linked if your standing in 1 of those zones and can only use this like every 3-5mins)

    Just thought of this idea...

    There should be some key words that will flag GMs to check you out and see if your RMT.

    Gil.Money,$,Cash,Sell,Buy, URL links, /?????/????.com etc.

    Like if a Gil Seller shouts in Uldah or /tells a player the game will message Square Enix Headquarters if they are using any combo of words. Once a Character seems to repeating these key words over and over they can be easily taken care over.

    Im Sure few other key words can be added to the list.
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    Ultimate solution: community enforcement. Right Click > Report Spam flags an account for spam and adds it to a temporary, session-limited ignore list for you. Getting X (50, 100, whatever) amount of spam flags prompts GM/special unit investigation.

    Limiting the amount of times you can shout and censoring words impedes on legitimate use, and automatic flagging depending on keywords will lead to a lot of false reports.
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    Zoobie Senjougahara
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    We need to be able to report people for RMT spam in-game and SE needs to be quick about it. Anyone caught RMT spamming should just be banned immediately on the spot. Even if someone is stupid enough to make a fake message to "test" SE, should get banned. It should be known to everyone that typing a message like that gets you banned right away.. How much spam do you really think we would have if these people were banned on the spot opposed to 5 weeks later?

    It's amazing how incapable companies seem to be when it comes to this.. Is it really that hard to put together a team dedicated to banning RMT spammers on the same day? The RMT'ers would lose too much money if their accounts were getting banned the same day I think.. Of course there would still be RMT but I'm okay with that as long as they're not spamming.
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    Last edited by IloveYouPumpkin; 12-05-2012 at 05:20 AM.

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    i would love a straight out server wide shout. makes it easier to get things together. i hate when you need to sit in town to get a party or make one. don't see why they gotta make it map/zone only anyway.
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    Player Wolfie's Avatar
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    Really though, the solution is to have a dedicated team of GMs that respond to spam reports within a few minutes and can issue temporary suspensions if they find that it's really spam.

    But I doubt that's going to be the case, given SE's very poor track record with completely powerless/useless GMs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Really though, the solution is to have a dedicated team of GMs that respond to spam reports within a few minutes and can issue temporary suspensions if they find that it's really spam.

    But I doubt that's going to be the case, given SE's very poor track record with completely powerless/useless GMs.
    When FFXI came to the states it was pretty crazy - but maybe they just wanted to troll Americans I dunno.. I got put in GM jail for 5 minutes without being told why, they just let me run around in circles going WHERE TEH FUCK AM I lol, I thought I fell through the world honestly.

    Found out that my 5 "LFG for a party quest" messages sent over a period of 3 minutes was too much and I got a warning.. that is after the GM decided to appear ominously (after 5 minutes) and be like
    "Do you know why you here"
    "Whats here?"
    "You where spamming"
    "....? Have you ever looked for group before?"
    "This is a warning, dont spam"

    Had a friend have to change his name from Lafaygts to Lafay (Lafay being his real name, and GTS for his car type). Because someone was butt hurt and thought it was saying la-faggots.


    Of course when the ps2 part of the game came out nothing happened to people named butternipples and such.. lol
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    Last edited by Shougun; 12-05-2012 at 05:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venat View Post
    There should be some key words that will flag GMs to check you out and see if your RMT.

    Gil.Money,$,Cash,Sell,Buy, URL links, /?????/????.com etc.
    Filters are rather easy to avoid as a human, so they are useless. All they do is make the life harder for legit players.

    Quote Originally Posted by strallaalaa View Post
    i would love a straight out server wide shout. makes it easier to get things together. i hate when you need to sit in town to get a party or make one.
    That's not the job of the shout channel. You have 2 different systems for that in 1.0 and ARR will have the content finder.

    Actually, I don't see the use of a "global" chat except for spamming your chat log with useless chatter.
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    I wasn't in at NA release, no, but I spent several years on FFXI and the two years on FFXIV, and SE GMs in general can't do almost anything besides give canned responses, tell you they're investigating, or tell you they can't do X.

    Can't restore items, "investigating RMT", "investigating spam", can't unstuck/use teleport/warp, you have to report with the character having a problem despite not being able to log in, whatever. Take this with a grain of salt because I can't find the posts anymore, but I've read a few leaked accounts of former FFXI and FFXIV GMs where they basically said SE made a very rigid policy that didn't let them do anything, or simply didn't give them the tools to do anything beyond investigate and report the problem to someone higher up.

    It's seriously among, if not the worst customer service from any subscription based MMO.
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    Player Wolfie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    That's not the job of the shout channel. You have 2 different systems for that in 1.0 and ARR will have the content finder.

    Actually, I don't see the use of a "global" chat except for spamming your chat log with useless chatter.
    Global channels are useful for many things, including having a proactive party/LS/FC/trade search, instead of passive systems like content finder, party finder, and MW/AH. If you don't see the use for global channels, I don't know what to tell you.

    They're also completely optional, so if you really think they're spammy, you don't have to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I wasn't in at NA release, no, but I spent several years on FFXI and the two years on FFXIV, and SE GMs in general can't do almost anything besides give canned responses, tell you they're investigating, or tell you they can't do X.

    Can't restore items, "investigating RMT", "investigating spam", can't unstuck/use teleport/warp, you have to report with the character having a problem despite not being able to log in, whatever. Take this with a grain of salt because I can't find the posts anymore, but I've read a few leaked accounts of former FFXI and FFXIV GMs where they basically said SE made a very rigid policy that didn't let them do anything, or simply didn't give them the tools to do anything beyond investigate and report the problem to someone higher up.

    It's seriously among, if not the worst customer service from any subscription based MMO.
    Wonder if they had a bunch of abusing GMs or sued or something, because I remember a friend who was teleported out when he got stuck under the wood plankings of whatever that city next to Yutunga was called.

    I know what you are talking about though, every time I've called a GM or heard someone call a GM they always get the "we will look into it" automatical email response. Which means -nothing is going to happen trololololo-. GMs do more on the forums.. lol
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