Global Alpha Test Start Date

[Abriael]

Yeah yeah, you're just "ticked off" in a calm way. Well actually, you only said "ticked" because you're "tickeld pink". lol You're the calm version of "ticked off". Yeah, whatever.

Quite calm. You may want to notice that despite you continuing to miss the point, to misrepresent my opinion and to generally derail the discussion over and over, I'm not insulting you. While you are indeed insulting others. And standing by your alleged "right" to continue insulting them (which, believe me, is utterly hilarious).

Guess I'm not the angry one here.

Only to those in denial. lol

Claiming that those that deny the factual nature of your claims are "in denial" doesn't make them more factual.

"Rare issue"? Dude, try reading the forums sometime. It will definately bring you up to speed. lol

I believe my post count and yours shows quite clearly who needs to read the forums more.

... or maybe who needs to read them less... >_>

But feeling entitled to rewards for some reason you yourself made up in your own head is. And when you whine when you don't get it, you're a whiner. And a crybaby.

No, they're individuals that have been educated by companies (SE Included) over the years to the concept that customer loyalty is to be rewarded, which is, mind you, a quite logical and balanced concept.

There's a difference between "insulting someone" and pointing out the truth. People crying over not getting something no one at SE said they were entitled to anyway are being whiners and crybabies. (shrug)

Is funny how you claim you're not insulting people, and you continue to stress on those insults in the same sentence. "whiner" "crybaby" and the like are all derogatory remarks. As such they're factually insults. You should refrain from them.

LOl As is your obvious inability to get the point before it sails way over your head. (and it's getting funnier as well) My point is, it's wise to keep things in perspective. A mistake by a company can be devastating. But if it's not, it's best to deal with it in such a matter. You keep bringing up what "might" happen or what "could" happen, and no one disputes that serious mistakes can be made, and can be damaging. My point is, SE's blunder is not as serious as you are pretending it is.

The little fact that you're missing is that no one is pretending anything. You're continuing to try and refute a point that no one argued. It's a blunder. Serious or not, it's besides the point. Blunders should be avoided.

And companies that blow a blunder out of proportion and deal with it accordingly waste time when they could be focusing on something more important. Which is just as potentially devestating.

Why, I believe you're in no position to assess SE's resources, and to decide whether they have the time to amend whatever mistake they make.

I'll give you a hint: they have a PR department and plenty community managers exactly for that purpose. "wasting" their time can hardly be "devastating". That's what they're paid for.

Different situation. The game was atrocious when it first came out. We're talking about misinformation about alpha testing invites. Which isn't a big deal. Really, it's not. lol

You are aware that you saying that something isn't a big deal "really" doesn't make it so, right?

People are being whiny crybabies. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, I'm calling it a duck. (shrug) Deal with it. lol

In a discussion forum in which the rules state clearly that demeaning others isn't allowed, it remains disallowed no matter how much you *think* it's justified.

The rules don't state "be polite and respectful to others unless they deserve a thrashing". They state "be polite and respectful to others" period.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm running out of popcorn.

i'll share what's left of mine. There's only so many times even the most patient person can try to explain the same very basic concepts before he gets bored.

[SkyeWindbinder]

Quite calm. You may want to notice that despite you continuing to miss the point, to misrepresent my opinion and to generally derail the discussion over and over, I'm not insulting you. While you are indeed insulting others.

Guess you're the angry one here.

Whatever you say. I better be careful here, though. I don't want to "tick you off" again, in a calm manner, of course. lol One thing I will say about you, though. You're hilarious!

Claiming that those that deny the factual nature of your claims are "in denial" doesn't make them more factual.

And continuing to deny the facts doesn't make you any less in denial. In fact, it's kind of the opposite. lol

I believe my post count and yours shows quite clearly who needs to read the forums more.

... or maybe who needs to read them less... >_>

Or it shows you post a lot without knowing what you're talking about. lol

No, they're individuals that have been educated by companies over the years to the concept that customer loyalty is to be rewarded, which is, mind you, a quite logical and balanced concept.

I'm sure they have. I'm also sure they know the difference between a mistake that is a devestating blow to the company and a blunder which is so small it's practically insignificant. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're smart enough to know all of that. lol

Is funny how you claim you're not insulting people, and you continue to stress on those insults in the same sentence. "whiner" "crybaby" and the like are all derogatory remarks. As such they're factually insults. You should refrain from them.

Or maybe people crying and whining on the forums should refrain from, well, crying and whining on the forums. Then there's a 0% chance they'll get called out for it.

The little fact that you're missing is that no one is pretending anything. You're continuing to try and refute a point that no one argued. It's a blunder. Serious or not, it's besides the point. Blunders should be avoided.

Except that blunders are going to happen, sooner or later. And they can be serious, or not serious. MY point, which seems to skip merrilly over your head a lot lol, is that this blunder is the latter kind, regardless of how much you want to believe otherwise.

Why, I believe you're in no position to assess SE's resources, and to decide whether they have the time to amend whatever mistake they make.

Nor do I believe you're a corprorate genius or something who can declare that any blunder made by the company is "Srs bzness", especially since they seem to be acting otherwise.

I'll give you a hint: they have a PR department and plenty community managers exactly for that purpose. "wasting" their time can hardly be "devastating". That's what they're paid for.

And yet, none of those "PR"s seem to be taking this blunder all that seriously. Hmm....

You are aware that you saying that something isn't a big deal "really" doesn't make it so, right?

Tell you what, when they treat it like it's a huge, serious deal, then so will I. Until then, well, yeah. lol

In a discussion forum in which the rules state clearly that demeaning others isn't allowed, it remains disallowed no matter how much you *think* it's justified.

Just as people are not going to be allowed to alpha test the game just because they have veteran status, no matter how much you may "believe" it should be so. (shrug)

Also, they are whiners. And crybabies. :P

[Abriael]

Read minds... your basically having a heart attack nearly every page has your name. meh watching show

Hyperbole is your friend, I see. I do believe my heart is fine, thank you.

Whatever you say. I better be careful here, though. I don't want to "tick you off" again, in a calm manner, of course. lol One thing I will say about you, though. You're hilarious!

Ah, sarcasm with a sprinkle of passive aggressiveness on top, the perfect way to try and hide a weak position.

And continuing to deny the facts doesn't make you any less in denial. In fact, it's kind of the opposite. lol

Only that there's no fact to be denied, only your very biased opinion that you try so hard to pass as fact. Doesn't work like that.

Or it shows you post a lot without knowing what you're talking about. lol

I'm quite sure it's very clear who here doesn't know what he's talking about. And it isn't me.

I'm sure they have. I'm also sure they know the difference between a mistake that is a devestating blow to the company and a blunder which is so small it's practically insignificant. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're smart enough to know all of that. lol

Except that blunders are going to happen, sooner or later. And they can be serious, or not serious. MY point, which seems to skip merrilly over your head a lot lol, is that this blunder is the latter kind, regardless of how much you want to believe otherwise.

You seem to be very bent in passing the idea that since blunders "happen" they shouldn't be taken seriously. Yeah, doesn't work like that.

Mind you, if you want to work in the development industry as you stated before, I suggest you lose this idea as soon as possible, because I can tell you from experience: it's not gonna fly.

Or maybe people crying and whining on the forums should refrain from, well, crying and whining on the forums. Then there's a 0% chance they'll get called out for it.

What they do is inconsequential. You're not allowed to insult them. May want to come to terms with this idea.

Nor do I believe you're a corprorate genius or something who can declare that any blunder made by the company is "Srs bzness", especially since they seem to be acting otherwise.

[And yet, none of those "PR"s seem to be taking this blunder all that seriously. Hmm....[/quote]

You mean posting a lengthy post that probably took Yoshi at least a hour to compose and the PR department some more to review? That seems to be a rather serious response.

No, I'm no "corporate genious", but I do share quite a bit of experience in that world, besides a rather strong education in business with a degree in brand management.

Just as people are not going to be allowed to alpha test the game just because they have veteran status, no matter how much you may "believe" it should be so. (shrug)

Also, they are whiners. And crybabies. :P

Adding smileys is a rather sad attempt to hide the insulting nature of your posts. if you can't understand the fact that you're breaking the rules of the forums, other than behaving in an extremely impolite and disrespectful way, I can't really help you.

[Starlord]

Hyperbole is your friend, I see. I do believe my heart is fine, thank you.

I'm glad to hear that ^.^. but you are blowing this out of proportion though, it's just an Alpha test You must love crashes that much to complain. Who cares if "non-actives" get in as long as they are doing their part to make the " Retail" version of the game better, why would it matter if your in the Alpha Version?

[SkyeWindbinder]

Ah, sarcasm with a sprinkle of passive aggressiveness on top, the perfect way to try and hide a weak position.

lol Yeah, I'm weak, from laughter! I am so enjoying rattling your cage. Even got you to admit you were ticked off. In a "calm way", of course! This isn't the first time I've made an angry person a small hobby in a thread. Not even the most notable. But it is enjoyable, nonetheless!

Only that there's no fact to be denied, only your very biased opinion that you try so hard to pass as fact. Doesn't work like that.

Now I can't tell if you're really in denial of just ignorant of the facts. Either way, it's kind of sad in a funny sort of way. lol

I'm quite sure it's very clear who here doesn't know what he's talking about. And it isn't me

Says the calm ticked off person! lol Omg, you're a riot!

You seem to be very bent in passing the idea that since blunders "happen" they shouldn't be taken seriously. Yeah, doesn't work like that.

Mind you, if you want to work in the development industry as you stated before, I suggest you lose this idea as soon as possible, because I can tell you from experience: it's not gonna fly.

And you seem bent in passing the idea that small barely important blunders should be treated with as much urgency as huge, company destroying mistakes. Which I'm sure, in some strange bizarro world, they should. Unfortunately, this is earth, and that's where your logic fails.

What they do is inconsequential. You're not allowed to insult them. May want to come to terms with this idea.

Again, insulting and telling the harsh truth is not the same thing. If they can act like crybabies, I can call them out about it. And I will. (shrug)

You mean posting a lengthy post that probably took Yoshi at least a hour to compose and the PR department some more to review? That seems to be a rather serious response.

Oh my god, he posted something!!! He must be terrified!!!!

lol Give me a break, man. XD

No, I'm no "corporate genious", but I do share quite a bit of experience in that world, besides a rather strong education in business with a degree in brand management.

And yet, you think mis-information about a closed alpha is srs bzns. lol I want to go to business school where you went. I bet it's... interesting.

Adding smileys is a rather sad attempt to hide the insulting nature of your posts. if you can't understand the fact that you're breaking the rules of the forums, other than behaving in an extremely impolite and disrespectful way, I can't really help you.

I'm not hiding anything, lol I'm clearly stating that people who whine and cry out of some false sense of entitlement are whiners and crybabies. No hiding, no false messages, no beating around the bush. There it is, blunt as can be. And I don't need your help getting that message across. Thanks for offering, though! You sweetie.

[Abriael]

Where is this proof that inactives got in other than "other peoples" word? Do you have any? Would be so kind as to show me this proof?

There have been plenty reports of it over twitter and in fan forums. There have also been people here that tested with another inactive account if they could apply.

Where is the proof that it didn't happen again? all SE has to do is to deny it. Yet they aren't.

I'm very willing to believe whatever official statement SE makes on the issue.

lol Yeah, I'm weak, from laughter! I am so enjoying rattling your cage. Even got you to admit you were ticked off. In a "calm way", of course! This isn't the first time I've made an angry person a small hobby in a thread. Not even the most notable. But it is enjoyable, nonetheless!

Do forgive me if I condense, because it's getting tedious, so I'll skip all the little personal jabs that bring nowhere in order to keep the conversation focused.

And you seem bent in passing the idea that small barely important blunders should be treated with as much urgency as huge, company destroying mistakes.

I'm very curious to see you quote where I said that small blunders should be treated with "as much urgency" as huge ones.

Do humor me.

Continuing to misrepresent your interlocutor's opinion because you can't counter it in its original form doesn't really work that well, you know?

Again, insulting and telling the harsh truth is not the same thing. If they can act like crybabies, I can call them out about it. And I will. (shrug)

First of all, you're not the harbringer of the "truth". It's no more than your very personal opinion.

It doesn't matter how much you think an insult applies to someone. It remains an insult. The rules are there for everyone to see. I'll link them for your convenience. Do read them.

Mind you, you should have done it before you started to post.

Oh my god, he posted something!!! He must be terrified!!!!

Do quote where I stated he's "terrified". if you can't, you may want to cut on the strawman arguments. As I said previously, they're tedious.

He reacted, quite extensively considering his busy schedule. Which means he's not taking the situation lightly.

I'm not hiding anything, lol I'm clearly stating that people who whine and cry out of some false sense of entitlement are whiners and crybabies. No hiding, no false messages, no beating around the bush. There it is, blunt as can be. And I don't need your help getting that message across. Thanks for offering, though! You sweetie.

Good, you may want to know that your bluntness is against the forum rules, not to mention the basic rules of civil discussion.

[Starlord]

There have been plenty reports of it over twitter and in fan forums. There have also been people here that tested with another inactive account if they could apply. Where is the proof that it didn't happen again? all SE has to do is to deny it. Yet they aren't.



Do forgive me if I condense, because it's getting tedious, so I'll skip all the little personal jabs that bring nowhere in order to keep the conversation focused.



I'm very curious to see you quote where I said that small blunders should be treated with "as much urgency" as huge ones.

Do humor me.

Continuing to misrepresent your interlocutor's opinion because you can't counter it in its original form doesn't really work that well, you know?



First of all, you're not the harbringer of the "truth". It's no more than your very personal opinion.

It doesn't matter how much you think an insult applies to someone. It remains an insult. The rules are there for everyone to see. I'll link them for your convenience. Do read them.

Mind you, you should have done it before you started to post.



Do quote where I stated he's "terrified". if you can't, you may want to cut on the strawman arguments. As I said previously, they're tedious.

He reacted, quite extensively considering his busy schedule. Which means he's not taking the situation lightly.



Good, you may want to know that your bluntness is against the forum rules, not to mention the basic rules of civil discussion.

All it takes is one person to start a fire, and other people is like the spread of the fire. Link to these "reports" if you would.