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    OMG! SO much info!!! Good job Yoshi!
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    I really admire the patience of Yoshi... I really hope ARR is successful and all this hard work pays off for him and the dev team.

    Sometimes I understand why Tanaka refused to have communication with the player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    I really admire the patience of Yoshi... I really hope ARR is successful and all this hard work pays off for him and the dev team.

    Sometimes I understand why Tanaka refused to have communication with the player base.
    Yeah, I suspect they're just as tired of all the crying over alpha invites as we are. You know, it's always been my dream to work for Squeenix and make games for them, yet I almost dread what will come if my dream were ever to come true. I have terrible babysitting skills. I haven't the patience for whining kids, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Yeah, I suspect they're just as tired of all the crying over alpha invites as we are. You know, it's always been my dream to work for Squeenix and make games for them, yet I almost dread what will come if my dream were ever to come true. I have terrible babysitting skills. I haven't the patience for whining kids, lol.
    If you want to make games, you may want to know what the role of those that make games entails. It normally doesn't include any babysitting. That's the job of community managers, and occasionally of the Game Director/Producer, if he so wishes.

    Participation by developers to forum discussions and similar is normally not part of their job description. If they do it, it is because they want to.

    And yet again another that second guesses other people's motives, and insults them because they dare to be disappointed.

    The internet is truly a wonderful place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    If you want to make games, you may want to know what the role of those that make games entails. It normally doesn't include any babysitting. That's the job of community managers, and occasionally of the Game Director/Producer, if he so wishes.

    Participation by developers to forum discussions and similar is normally not part of their job description. If they do it, it is because they want to.

    And yet again another that second guesses other people's motives, and insults them because they dare to be disappointed.

    The internet is truly a wonderful place.
    lol I'm aware of what jobs are out there as far as making games. And to tell you the truth, I've always wanted to be a writer/level designer for games. My statement was simply that it would get a bit annoying to have to do PR and deal with a bunch of crybabies that are simply angry that they didn't get what they wanted and are throwing tantrums on forums because of it. I'm sure Yoshi could be doing something better besides soothing a bunch of crybabies, like maybe working on the game. But, you do what you have to do for PR, I guess.

    And really, you need to lighten up. You took my post a bit too much to heart. Me thinks you doth protest too much... hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    lol I'm aware of what jobs are out there as far as making games. And to tell you the truth, I've always wanted to be a writer/level designer for games. My statement was simply that it would get a bit annoying to have to do PR and deal with a bunch of crybabies that are simply angry that they didn't get what they wanted and are throwing tantrums on forums because of it. I'm sure Yoshi could be doing something better besides soothing a bunch of crybabies, like maybe working on the game. But, you do what you have to do for PR, I guess.
    Yoshi's a smart man. I'm quite sure that if he could do something better, he'd be doing it. He does what he does exactly because he knows that a certain degree of discontent is not unjustified.

    And really, you need to lighten up. You took my post a bit too much to heart. Me thinks you doth protest too much... hmm...
    if people didn't "protest", we wouldn't have ARR.

    I do pinpoint serious PR troubles, because at the moment the game isn't under too much of a spotlight. If something like this big lapse in communication happened nearer to release, when the eye of the media will be aimed at SE for every little mistake, this would be all over the net already, with the potential of doing serious damage.

    People like Brian Ashcraft from Kotaku and many others would jump on the chance to throw some more mud at the Final Fantasy franchise like a bear throws himself at a pot of honey.

    It's not like a lot of the gaming media doesn't already look at SE with a certain amount of negative bias. Can they really afford to take chances and give them ammo on a silver platter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Yeah, I suspect they're just as tired of all the crying over alpha invites as we are. You know, it's always been my dream to work for Squeenix and make games for them, yet I almost dread what will come if my dream were ever to come true. I have terrible babysitting skills. I haven't the patience for whining kids, lol.
    Well becoming director takes a long way up, and I hope you don't want to get on the PR team, because as awesome as they are, I guess it's one of the hardest jobs, to deal with all the forums. Not just the whiny people now with the alpha, but the grass, the animations, or whatever... We all know FFXIV got to a bad start, so we should show support and respect for the devs, instead of whining so much, as a community.

    It's OK to pinpoint what we don't like in the game, and I see lots of constructive criticism threads, but there are way too many of the others.

    Still good luck in joining Square! I hope I can join too and meet you at the devs cafeteria =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    Well becoming director takes a long way up, and I hope you don't want to get on the PR team, because as awesome as they are, I guess it's one of the hardest jobs, to deal with all the forums. Not just the whiny people now with the alpha, but the grass, the animations, or whatever... We all know FFXIV got to a bad start, so we should show support and respect for the devs, instead of whining so much, as a community.

    It's OK to pinpoint what we don't like in the game, and I see lots of constructive criticism threads, but there are way too many of the others.

    Still good luck in joining Square! I hope I can join too and meet you at the devs cafeteria =P
    Here's hoping, lol. And yeah, to be fair, there are some threads with very constructive criticism. It's just the whiny entitlement threads that have gotten old, and they're posted over and over and over... Oy vey. -_-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannythm View Post
    Still good luck in joining Square! I hope I can join too and meet you at the devs cafeteria =P
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    You know, it's always been my dream to work for Squeenix
    Race you guys... :P

    But I dont see whats the problem with being PR. You learn the problem you see if you can fix it or if it deserves squelching - and then you follow through. Certainty not a job that brings much praise but I dont think people without patience dare apply lol (of course the above is an over simplification of the processes/job... :P)

    Not saying butterflies and rainbows but its just another type of work.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 11-28-2012 at 07:50 AM.

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    12/3 ? Too much far.

    I want it all, i want it all, i want it all, and i want it now~
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