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  1. #1261
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    If people are seriously going to cancel their account over not having same sex marriage in the game, then it's pretty evident they didn't have enough interest in the game in the first place, same goes for the other side. What an absolutely shitty thread. Both sides offer up claims with little or no evidence. I think this is just a side effect of people being anxious waiting until Alpha, because it would be pretty sad if people were legitimately this concerned over an extra title or whatever marriage will give you in a video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exn View Post
    Twiddle the fact that you argreed with the above completely biased and unsupported quoted statement destroyed any possible creditability you may have had in this arguement. Not that many people gave you much to begin with, but may have been at least able to follow your train of thought before.. now.. meh, whatever.
    I know to well that Warlock's statement is as you say "completely biased and unsupported". However from a neutral stand point when you look at it seems to hold water. As for biased, i may be wrong here but i don't get the vibe that he is picking a side... Reason following my train of thought is hard is that i agree with both sides, and disagree on equal terms. There is valid points to be had from both sides of the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    If people are seriously going to cancel their account over not having same sex marriage in the game, then it's pretty evident they didn't have enough interest in the game in the first place, same goes for the other side. What an absolutely shitty thread. Both sides offer up claims with little or no evidence. I think this is just a side effect of people being anxious waiting until Alpha, because it would be pretty sad if people were legitimately this concerned over an extra title or whatever marriage will give you in a video game.
    Seems like you missed the point. But as you probably have never had any vested intrest in the subject to begin with, that makes sense. Some people have cancelled their account over SE deciding to implement one (and term it 'marriage'), while preventing the other. SE decided to make this an issue in the first place, and then they chose a side. Naturally people will have a difference in opinion. Some players who may be huge fans of the game, and of the FF series in general, may have alot of interest in the subject to begin with, and feel very passionetly about it, because obviously in the real world it affects their everyday lives. That works for both sides of the arguement, so it should not be hard to comprehend that some people would rather just go support some other company that doesn't make a stance against something you may be passionate about, even if I personally don't feel that their decision should be taken so seriously.

    Not sure what evidence you are talking about/looking for?? This is an arguement based on preferences, so.. yea...
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  4. #1264
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teuciont View Post
    If people are seriously going to cancel their account over not having same sex marriage in the game, then it's pretty evident they didn't have enough interest in the game in the first place, same goes for the other side. What an absolutely shitty thread. Both sides offer up claims with little or no evidence. I think this is just a side effect of people being anxious waiting until Alpha, because it would be pretty sad if people were legitimately this concerned over an extra title or whatever marriage will give you in a video game.
    I don't think I've ever heard of someone saying they're going to cancel their account (In this thread atleast, or anywhere else tbh. Feel free to bring some evidence to the table though -- that goes for anyone lol) because there's no SSM in game.


    Originally, the thread started as a poll (Which you can check out in the first post), then turned into ideas on how we could make SSM work for everyone... it was a good thread I promise! lol

    Again though, having SSM ingame also affects hetero couples, it's not about pushing an agenda, it's just that a lot of us believe that content should be available for everyone regardless of what characters you picked based on aesthetic choice without having to remake them just to take part in it.
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    Can't we just ignore Warlock, he's just trolling the thread anyways >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twiddle View Post
    I know to well that Warlock's statement is as you say "completely biased and unsupported". However from a neutral stand point when you look at it seems to hold water. As for biased, i may be wrong here but i don't get the vibe that he is picking a side... Reason following my train of thought is hard is that i agree with both sides, and disagree on equal terms. There is valid points to be had from both sides of the argument.
    Understood. I do however definetly get the vibe that that poster is picking a side, not even subtly either..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorata View Post
    As an out gay 32 years old gay man, this sounds more like an insult. Call it a sensitive subject if you will but this is only a controversial topic when you want to make it controversial. In this particular situation, if SquareEnix just launch the marriage function that allows all the get married to whomever they like, without mentioning about this being a "controversy", people probably won't even make a big deal out of it.

    Why must 10% of the population always have to fight for what should be for them to begin with. Politician use it as an agenda, religion use it as an controlling method. Now should I be rejoice and thank your company for ALLOWING same sex marriage in the game, if that day happens? Should I give the developer a hero cookie for giving me such a privilege?

    There are people who already deactivated their account over this; and you have yourself to blame for making this a controversy.
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    Just an example from this thread re: your comment about not noticing anyone talking about canceling. (Not that I agree with canceling, just showing this)
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  8. #1268
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exn View Post
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    Just an example from this thread re: your comment about not noticing anyone talking about canceling. (Not that I agree with canceling, just showing this)
    Thanks Exn ^^, I'm curious who the people he knows are that have de-activated now lol. I know a lot of couples that are really hoping for SSM but they wouldn't leave the game if it wasn't in, so that kinda blindsided me a bit lol.

    You're a star, thanks for finding the quote for me and have a fantastic day^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    I don't think I've ever heard of someone saying they're going to cancel their account.
    I present to you Exn:

    Quote Originally Posted by Exn View Post
    Seems like you missed the point. But as you probably have never had any vested intrest in the subject to begin with, that makes sense. Some people have cancelled their account over SE deciding to implement one (and term it 'marriage'), while preventing the other.
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    This is not reason enough to cancel account yet, to do so is to jump the gun before the bullet is in the tube. @ Sorata don't take this personally, i doubt that SE wants to single out any group with what was said. Quite the opposite, am thinking that SE is willing to get scrutinized, to keep the playing field fair. Else i don't think they would have said anything. You don't dig your self out of one whole to jump in another one...
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