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    There's an MMO called Cloud Nine (Holic) that implemented same-sex marriage and the world didn't implode. My vote is FOR same-sex marriage.
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    Not to be light of a situation, but are we seriously talking about marriage in a fantasy game as if it has any effect on reality?

    I think that SE will allow SSM for the simple reason the are going to allow a human and a cat person to marry. Sounds kinda close to well you get the picture. This is a game nothing more nothing less. There is no political outcry if it happens....Just like there is no outcry that a human can marry a cat person.

    No one cares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allanon View Post
    Not to be light of a situation, but are we seriously talking about marriage in a fantasy game as if it has any effect on reality?

    I think that SE will allow SSM for the simple reason the are going to allow a human and a cat person to marry. Sounds kinda close to well you get the picture. This is a game nothing more nothing less. There is no political outcry if it happens....Just like there is no outcry that a human can marry a cat person.

    No one cares.
    I think a human and miqote relationship is not similar. Because theyre both humanoid with extremely advanced reasoning abilities. While we, in real life, as humans, are the only ones are like this. No Miqote in realife. Its what differs really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arec View Post
    I think a human and miqote relationship is not similar. Because theyre both humanoid with extremely advanced reasoning abilities. While we, in real life, as humans, are the only ones are like this. No Miqote in realife. Its what differs really.
    My point here it that SE is not doing a species segregation marriage so why do it based on gender. This is a game at the end of the day it really does not matter.

    Lets remember that if OSM only happens that just means that there will be a number of character that will be OS but the actual player being SS. At the end of the day it really does not matter.

    The only thing that will matter is that if there are special bonuses attributed to marriage in-game. If that is the case then preventing SSM in game would at that point become a political football. It would be biased and would make real people have to create new character just to follow a rule to receive the bonuses.....Now how is that fair and balanced?
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    I voted for it. everyone should be treated fairly either allow it or take it from the game completely.
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    Don't care! BTW, another thread was JUST locked on the same subject not due to flaming but simply that they have heard enough and that no original ideas are coming from these threads so, might as well just give it a rest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synfrag View Post
    Don't care! BTW, another thread was JUST locked on the same subject not due to flaming but simply that they have heard enough and that no original ideas are coming from these threads so, might as well just give it a rest?
    That's an awful reason to close a thread though considering almost all of the topics here have been done to death 100 times already and yet they are allowed to continue.

    This is an important issue to quite a number of people and we should be allowed to voice our opinions continually. If we're not allowed to continue speaking up about it, how will the devs know that it's an issue we still care about? Going by the poll on page 1 and a large number of comments, a good portion of the community wants equal marriage in the game.
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    Real-world examples probably shouldn't be referenced here; the legal/equality issues of same-sex marriage don't really apply here. (Hear me out before you start flaming me.) Please keep the real-world arguments to a minimum to prevent derailing this thread into one debating issues happening in the real-world. This is a thread about IN-GAME issues, so try to keep that frame of reference. If you want to debate real-world gay marriage, then make a new thread and debate it there.

    Chances are in-game marriage will provide some small bonus to players (likely shared housing, linked inventory, etc), so restricting these bonuses to players based on CHARACTER gender in essence makes this a socio-political issue for SE. While it is a fragile topic, if indeed bonuses are applied to married couples then DISALLOWING same-sex marriage in-game also acts as a real-world statement for SE. (See my post about programming.)

    I'm not sure what SE's actual stance on these issues actually is, and personally, for me to continue enjoying the game I'd honestly rather not know. However, it seems that if they wish not to openly reveal their stance, or at least make it AS AMBIGUOUS as possible, the following would be a good way of doing it:

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    "Any two characters will be able to marry, regardless of gender, in order to reduce any real or perceived advantages players may have for choosing to play one gender over another."

    Thoughts?
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    Last edited by Fylion; 11-12-2012 at 08:44 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fylion View Post
    This is a thread about IN-GAME issues, so try to keep that frame of reference.
    Ok.

    Homosexuality and bisexuality seems almost more common in the world of Eorzea than heterosexuality.

    Guess the discussion is over. Same-sex marriage is fine.

    (not to mention all the love-of-life and balance and peace and all that mumbo jumbo spread around by gridanians.... WAIT THE CATHEDRAL IS IN THE BLACK SHROUD! Whoa!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallivis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fylion View Post
    This is a thread about IN-GAME issues, so try to keep that frame of reference.
    Ok.

    Homosexuality and bisexuality seems almost more common in the world of Eorzea than heterosexuality.

    Guess the discussion is over. Same-sex marriage is fine.
    Sorry, I was actually referring to conversations -like- the exchange between Keisuna and Huginn here. (Not that I don't think this is a valid topic, just that these kinds of exchanges are likely to derail the subject if pursued too far.) Probably should have made two posts, as the rest of that one actually violates that particular line. XD

    Quote Originally Posted by Fylion View Post
    I'm not sure what SE's actual stance on these issues actually is, and personally, for me to continue enjoying the game I'd honestly rather not know. However, it seems that if they wish not to openly reveal their stance, or at least make it AS AMBIGUOUS as possible, the following would be a good way of doing it:

    (TLDR;)
    "Any two characters will be able to marry, regardless of gender, in order to reduce any real or perceived advantages players may have for choosing to play one gender over another."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScorchyWorchy View Post

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