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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totorixiii View Post
    Let's face it, since the Internet has taken over our lives in terms of community interaction, we have access to hear people's opinion and also have more power to change an event such with enough people's petitions.

    It's a good thing at the same time it's also maybe a bad thing.

    I however, grew up from the 80s and up. I'm discipline in manners and patients while also grew up using my imagination all things comes to video games, stories et etc.


    The newer generation that grew up with Internet, are more inclined on wanting what they need without giving in some patience. It's part of society within the gaming community in this age we have to deal with.

    Internet opens the gateway to people's mind of expression which is a make or break.
    And to summerize that entirely well written and insightful post with a movie quote:

    "The Mob is Rome."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    They'll lose interest....until the game is released. lol
    Lol - Because we get a free try at ARR it safe to say we would come back.

    It is still however in their best interest to keep us pysched as we can be their word of mouth.

    Who then would get others (non-previous players) involved and start watching, and those people dont get a free try so SE needs to then maintain the hype. Otherwise they may try another comparable (mmorpg) and not want to come over because they are already 100 hours into it.
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  3. #43
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    We'll survive without a 2 week update on current Alpha progress.

    In no way will Yoshi go a whole month or two without updates. He knows we are very eager to see what's next.

    I'm just waiting patiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    SE is horrible at marketing and communicating with their fans. They should really revamp their PR department.
    Really? wow hmm did you forget we have a FFXIV forums? when FFXI did not have that for years? and only got it onces they have to rebuild FFXIV? so ya i think they giving us enough information what do you want? a full book on everything going to happen in the next 10years to make you happy?

    I mean come on -.- we have enough information if they give us anymore they wont be anything else to tell us in the next few month then we be really bored wishing we did not get that information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi View Post
    They said there would be weekly alpha videos, but nothing this week. I don't believe anything they say anymore.
    Didn't they also say that we would get a barrage of info, like weekly, during the summer? WTF happened to that? Why is Square so ungodly horrible at marketing?
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by casker View Post
    Didn't they also say that we would get a barrage of info, like weekly, during the summer? WTF happened to that? Why is Square so ungodly horrible at marketing?
    We did get a lot of information it was just not that amount you thought it would be.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Really? wow hmm did you forget we have a FFXIV forums? when FFXI did not have that for years? and only got it onces they have to rebuild FFXIV? so ya i think they giving us enough information what do you want? a full book on everything going to happen in the next 10years to make you happy?

    I mean come on -.- we have enough information if they give us anymore they wont be anything else to tell us in the next few month then we be really bored wishing we did not get that information.
    You are comparing XIV to XI, both SE games and both examples of terrible communication. Both games terrible examples of marketing. And than you throw in this forum to the mix in which 80% of devs reply has been: we're working on it, we're looking into it, we cant discuss this at the moment, etc. They promised us weekly updates back in August and that failed. Servers went down with "we're working on it" yet again as a reply to comfort the customers.

    SE doesn't know how to keep a momentum. The end of an era trailer was amazing but I bet you in couple of weeks most people will cool off and yet again we will go back to a dry spell. Look at all the previous instances. The game show videos, etc. It's always one step forward two steps back with SE.

    Now don't get me wrong. XIV is the only MMO I've been playing since XI and only one I plan on playing. However, Tera, GW2, Rift, SWTORetc all had very transparent campaigns. GW2 turned out to be a disappointment from what I hear and the other two leaked subscribers very quickly. Does not change the fact that all of them sold a very large amount of copies and they are widely recognized titles. Ultimately, that's what XIV needs to do. It needs to sell millions of copies and they need to sell them to new customer because guess what. We already own a copy.

    Facts are that XIV is still viewed as a failure. It still remains in the shadows. We know alpha will start on the 26th but that's it. The new timeline should been released with the new trailer. They have plenty of concept art, lore bits, screenshots, and other stuff they could be releasing weekly to keep people buzzing about the game. The latest producer letter was very disappointing as it rehashed most of the stuff we already knew.

    It's a tough market out there and if SE wants to sell the game that charges monthly fee they need to amaze the average player. So far they been doing poor job with it.
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  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Cichy View Post
    You are comparing XIV to XI, both SE games and both examples of terrible communication. Both games terrible examples of marketing.
    If by terrible marketing you mean in the west, yes. Remember, XI originally wasn't even going to touch western shores until they decided on a Windows port and western gamers were more PC centric. In terms of other games though, they do well on marketing (could do better) but we can't really forget how pretty much all of their major titles sold purely based on 1 commercial alone lol, they never really needed a large campaign for their games before, but nowadays they do for their MMO for sure, especially since this is a second chance for a game that already failed.

    Honestly, all they really need to do is slap it on steam from the get go too since XI on steam actually got decent sales and the preferred way to get it from what I seen with people who started joining around Abyssea.
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  9. #49
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    Steam would help immensely
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    I am still dissapointed that we never truly got a flood of information. To me a flood of information would have given us an idea of how all the classes would work, but we are still somewhat in the dark about DOL/DOH which is something i've been waiting to learn more about since they announced the flood of information back in June.

    I would hope that soon enough maybe before the new year they'll actually tell us everything there is to know or at least the overall concept behind the changes behind DOL/DOH as it stands now we just know it's faster and for DOL you can choose the item you want to gather but they don't go into detail as to how the overall concept will work which is something I've been hoping to hear more about.

    Though I guess perhaps there was info this week because of the finale maybe they felt that was enough for this week but odds are we'll have something next week, though it wouldbe nice if they did update the other 2 classes types that are stillin the dark. Then again, maybe the information this week was the plot analysis and information regarding the finale, I guess since that story does tie into the alpha and because there was also a live letter they may have felt that there was no need to release an alpha video this week.

    Since I guess maybe some of us wouldn't consider the live letter as part of the alpha footage even though it did show off a lot such as housing, armor designs, the other sex of the races they plan on adding as well as some gameplay. So it is highly possible that that's why they didn't release anything this week lol.
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