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  1. #661
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    Colvin's Avatar
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    Connor Colvin
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    I said it earlier, but the only problem with this thread (socio-religeous discussion aside) is that a poll on the forums is inherently not representative of the buying populace. The poll needs to be publicised and placed in all languages so people across the world have full knowledge of it's existance and can contribute.

    The only people contributing to this poll are people who are naturally on forums, which is in and of itself, a subgroup.
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  2. #662
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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoxyLalonde View Post
    sometimes you say things that make me wonder if I didn't play with you often and just not know it.
    Oh But I am " . . ." Fill it in with some mind blowing name - tell me that name and then Ill meet you on ARR with a hardcore in game / out of game RP

    I saw you a few times in the server but it was near the end and I think you were afk cause I waved and you didnt move. . . *whimpers* lol

    Assuming you are located within NA, see you in ARR too :P (Or content finder, hope you can request cross server players in it that; would be fun)

    @Colvin - Pretty much lol, It is good to know when the forum thinks something is a interesting idea but it hardly represents the majority of actual players.

    I really hope they get it done and over with quickly as well, "just in case" I dont want the opening of ARR to be marred with a battle of activists and their opponents. Letting the players have a decision, I think, is a bad idea.. but.. so long as they can get it done smoothly I guess it doesnt matter.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 11-14-2012 at 01:52 AM.

  3. #663
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    Momeki's Avatar
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    Momeki Odgerel
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    These are pixels and guys play girl characters and vice versea. I don't think it's so important that the pixels' genders be the same to marry in a fictional world.
    I say allow it. because in the end it's their personal decision that doesn't effect me. those who are against same sex marriage, think of it this way, if you put all your time and work into a girl character , and your a guy. and there is a girl or perhaps even your wife (or can reverse say girl>guy character>husband>guy character) your not going to want to create a mule just to marry them. that would be like calling in a substitute to marry them, what would be the point?
    This should not turn into an argument about gay marriage I see this as a way to let those who play opposite genders in the game to be with whoever they have their heart set on guy or girl, and be able to celebrate that.
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  4. #664
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    RoxyLalonde's Avatar
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    Captain Subligar
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Oh But I am " . . ." Fill it in with some mind blowing name - tell me that name and then Ill meet you on ARR with a hardcore in game / out of game RP

    I saw you a few times in the server but it was near the end and I think you were afk cause I waved and you didnt move. . . *whimpers* lol

    Assuming you are located within NA, see you in ARR too :P (Or content finder, hope you can request cross server players in it that; would be fun)

    @Colvin - Pretty much lol, It is good to know when the forum thinks something is a interesting idea but it hardly represents the majority of actual players.

    I really hope they get it done and over with quickly as well, "just in case" I dont want the opening of ARR to be marred with a battle of activists and their opponents. Letting the players have a decision, I think, is a bad idea.. but.. so long as they can get it done smoothly I guess it doesnt matter.
    I will be captain subligar in 2.0... XD you seem pretty cool so I'm sad we never got to play together
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
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    Vitamin T is known for enhancing Subligar based powers...

  5. #665
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    Zantetsuken's Avatar
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    Siorai Aduaidh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Marriages are not required to have children. Nor are married couples forced to procreate.

    How does preventing same sex marriages force the LGBT crowd to marry people they are not attracted to? How does it even foster the needed family environment for raising children, or wanting children?

    More to the point, how does same sex marriages in game have anything to do with Japan's population?
    It makes perfect sense:

    Marriage is a child-stimulus program (either by design or incidentally). Same sex unions are a stamp of approval on a romantic relationship. To call a same-sex union a 'marriage' is to reduce the latter to the former.

    Japan needs a child-stimulus program - that is a special benefit to those who are starting a biological family.

    I doubt you'll understand this though - you seem determined that the romantic element is the only component of marriage, rather than just a part of it (Historically, it wasn't a part of some marriages at all.)
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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 11-14-2012 at 02:04 AM.

  6. #666
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    Reinheart Valentine
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    I support same sex marriage.
    I know people in different country/religion has different view of this but restricting someone from being together with someone they truly love is not right. If you can love someone, that shouldn't matter if that person is same gender or not. All it matters is love in the end right? Times are changing people, we have to be able to love one another more than spreading hate.

    But in my case... I just spread subligar love to everyone... no matter what race, gender, species, monsters... so.... yeah....
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  7. #667
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    Arcell's Avatar
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    Arc Jurado
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keisuna View Post
    They locked that thread because it got too heated AND because there wasn't any opinion that the devs haven't already heard. I realize you'd rather not have this thread exist, but the mods haven't locked it yet, which means that at least for now this thread is not a problem.

    If the mods think this thread needs to be locked, it will be locked. Just let them do their job.
    That was kind of a bs reason to close the thread though considering they just described about 90% of the topics that have been and will be on this forum. Never before have I seen a thread closed with that reason stated.
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  8. #668
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    DubstepNinja's Avatar
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    Osprey Skyhigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    All it matters is love in the end right? Times are changing people, we have to be able to love one another more than spreading hate.

    But in my case... I just spread subligar love to everyone... no matter what race, gender, species, monsters... so.... yeah....
    Nominated for the congressional medal of awesome
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  9. #669
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    Phe's Avatar
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    Ogawa Sanshirou
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    I support polyamory:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory
    And there are many people out there, living that way.

    I think it should be allowed to marry more than 1 character.
    Do we really want to ignore this minority, too?
    You guys inspire me.
    I should make a thread.
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  10. #670
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    It makes perfect sense:

    Marriage is a child-stimulus program (either by design or incidentally). Same sex unions are a stamp of approval on a romantic relationship. To call a same-sex union a 'marriage' is to reduce the latter to the former.

    Japan needs a child-stimulus program - that is a special benefit to those who are starting a biological family.

    I doubt you'll understand this though - you seem determined that the romantic element is the only component of marriage, rather than just a part of it (Historically, it wasn't a part of some marriages at all.)
    A "child stimulus program"...I'll have to remember that for my stand up routine.

    Still, I have to wonder exactly how many would-be parents are factoring whether marriage equality is legal into their decision about having a baby.

    "Well gee, honey, we're doing fine financially, there's room in the house, and we did always say we wanted a child but...I just can't get over that there are gays out there somewhere marrying each other. I mean, two people of the same sex raising adopted or surrogate children in a legally recognized family, it's just too much!"

    Is there any research or study you're basing this off of, Zan?
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