Sorry if this feels like I'm stoking a fire here, but please believe that I am not^^;
I'm not sure what you mean by 'the aspect of their ideal is based upon a human ideal rather than a natural occurrence' D: You'll have to elaborate if you could, please^^;;
@Valk: I know that you said that first sentence was sarcastic, but you bring up a valid point.
As humans, we all have differing ideas, viewpoints whether it's something that's been taught to us or something that we have built our own conclusions on and while we do not have to agree with them, we must accept that people do have different stances on things.
Now, while I don't share Kona4me's view, I can accept that he has that view. We won't get anywhere butting heads over this, let's work together to find a positive solution that will work for everyone