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    sorry, ditch my earlier statement. it came from a manga I read. clearly need to re-read it again

    anyway, quick google search give me this
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Japan
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_Japan

    tldr, Japan is tolerant to LGBT, but doesn't allow same sex marriage to be perform in Japanese soil

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    God bless Japan!
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    tolerant yes and no...
    gays are ok as long as in the media as comic relief but you don't want a gay in your family, that's for sure
    oh and in Tokyo they banned dancing in gay clubs few month ago and then also talked of relocating the gay district on the suburbs because Shinjuku is too central so people could see them...
    so yeah... tolerant... yes and no...
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    tolerant yes and no...
    gays are ok as long as in the media as comic relief but you don't want a gay in your family, that's for sure
    oh and in Tokyo they banned dancing in gay clubs few month ago and then also talked of relocating the gay district on the suburbs because Shinjuku is too central so people could see them...
    so yeah... tolerant... yes and no...
    Said it before in another topic, but of all the supported language country's, Japan is probably the least accepting.
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    haha, well we can say that my info is second hand info while yours is first hand info lol

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    It's too late to ask lol
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    Everyone on the internet is called a phag so what makes this any different?
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    This is what happens when churches involve themselves in legal matters in a bid for power and control. You don't like it? Consider that while homosexuality is not a choice, religious belief is, and is still afforded protections under the law, if not enshrined as the law. Unless you elaborate on why you don't like tolerance (either in thus or another thread) If you re looking for causes of total innocence, yeah, you haven't been among the few that exist for a while.

    But before that, tell me this. What is the "gay" equivalent of a doctrine of everlasting torment? Or "putting them on an island", that is shared by whole organizations and required for membership?
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    Last edited by Kallera; 11-12-2012 at 11:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    This is what happens when churches involve themselves in legal matters in a bid for power and control. You don't like it? Consider that while homosexuality is not a choice, religious belief is, and is still afforded protections under the law, if not enshrined as the law. Unless you elaborate on why you don't like tolerance (either in thus or another thread) If you re looking for causes of total innocence, yeah, you haven't been among the few that exist for a while.

    But before that, tell me this. What is the "gay" equivalent of a doctrine of everlasting torment? Or "putting them on an island", that is shared by whole organizations and required for membership?
    i guess before tackling the fact the the premise of your challenge being false, i will go ahead and give the equivalent for the equivalent groups.
    Doctrines of hating anyone who disagrees with your lifestyle choice, calling them names and claiming that they are bullying you because oprah told you to. Believing that throwing glitter on someone or all over a parking lot will accomplish anything other than being perceived as inconsiderate litter-bugs. Telling those who disagree with same sex marriage to go to hell because you are "the majority". Claiming that religion is the basis of all problems that homosexuals run into... Is this satisfactory, or need i find more?

    tolerance and acceptance are different things.

    I feel the hatred boiling over within you. Again and again you mandate that the fear, opposition and phobia of homosexuality is created by religion. I must praise you on your use of logical fallacy which insinuates, partially through word choice by you, that there are large groups of people who require that one believes that homosexuals will be tormented for eternity or that they should be exiled in order to be a member of the organization.

    Religion, or rather faith, is a choice just as much as "sexual preference" is. You can choose to be heterosexual, you may not like it, agree with it, and it may disgust you. I can choose to be an atheist, i may not like it, agree with it and it may disgust me.

    You use critical theory almost exclusively, but you do not seem to know from where it originates. It amazes me that this is even a big issue for anyone. While it might be nice to have marriage in game, it does not even exist yet, nor is it a priority to be introduced. Perhaps your time could be better spent asking for the ability to have a one time race/gender change other than the opportunity we may have at the launch of ARR and up to six months later.

    for those of you that believe, just because i have been critical of the arguments, that i am opposed to same sex marriage, please tell me where i have said that i oppose it (with the exception of OBVIOUS hyperbole, sarcasm, satire and notations that said have been used in the creation of the post).
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    Last edited by Huginn; 11-12-2012 at 11:59 PM. Reason: grammatical correction, mor errors exist but im not looking for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn View Post
    Religion, or rather faith, is a choice just as much as "sexual preference" is. You can choose to be heterosexual, you may not like it, agree with it, and it may disgust you. I can choose to be an atheist, i may not like it, agree with it and it may disgust me.
    Either I missed something since last night or I've been sorely misinformed because I'm fairly certain it doesn't work that way.

    At any rate, this thread is about same sex marriage in a game. Fake, non-official, non-legal marriage in an online game. Someone tell me why same sex marriages shouldn't be allowed in that context.

    The real world has no bearing here, especially because the gender of the players is not taken into consideration, only the gender of the characters. Two male players with opposite gender characters can get married. A male and a female player with same gender characters cannot get married.
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