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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
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    Hundreds upon hundreds of games have fluent gameplay, with aesthetically pleasing animations.
    examples ? and please do not say GW2 or somethin ;XD

    This isn't either/or. They aren't mutually exclusive. The problem with XIV wasn't based on the complexities of the animations, it was based on the animation lock.
    well im pretty sure they tried out themselves on their test server.

    server lag -> was gone, animation lock -> gone.. stopping animation -> "hmm it still feels like something is delaying the gameplay" ... *removement of stopping animation* -> "so now it feels even more reactive than before".

    its about maximizing the reactive gameplay. the more less time is in between pressing the button and between actually perform the action the better it is. there have been many factors in 1.0. which delayed the game's reaction.


    who knows? But we already had a statement of yoshi p. clarifying exactly about this concern. you mean he is lieing? or his team to incapable to do so?
    they have test servers to try out things on their own. and if it feels much better when you leave out that animation... do you want to stick to it then?

    well i like the nintendo philosophy then... focus on fun and on gameplay. As i mentioned. Offline final fantasys did'nt have these animations either and did not make it more worse without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    examples ? and please do not say GW2 or somethin ;XD



    well im pretty sure they tried out themselves.

    server lag -> was gone, animation lock -> gone.. stopping animation -> "hmm it still feels like something is delaying the gameplay" ... *removing of stopping animation* -> "so now it feels even more reactive than before".

    its about maximizing the reactive gameplay. the more less time is in between pressing the button and between actually perform the action the better it is.


    who knows? But we already had a statement of yoshi p. clarifying exactly about this concern. you mean he is lieing? or his team to incapable to do so?
    There are so many examples I could give, MMO and non MMO alike. And no, I think his team is very capable, I think people like you who accept any shit shown to you, make him realise he doesn't have to push the extra mile. You're essentially making XIV into a worse game.

    You can have actions happen mid animation. Plenty of games do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    There are so many examples I could give, MMO and non MMO alike. And no, I think his team is very capable, I think people like you who accept any shit shown to you, make him realise he doesn't have to push the extra mile. You're essentially making XIV into a worse game.

    You can have actions happen mid animation. Plenty of games do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    There are so many examples I could give, MMO and non MMO alike. And no, I think his team is very capable, I think people like you who accept any shit shown to you, make him realise he doesn't have to push the extra mile. You're essentially making XIV into a worse game.

    You can have actions happen mid animation. Plenty of games do this.

    well actually i was refering to yoshidas statement about that. are you ignoring anything important you read? it seems so.

    Yoshi P. says "we removed it to increase the game responsiveness".

    you say "you can have both".

    so let us call Yoshi being a lier.. or the development team to incapable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    well actually i was refering to yoshidas statement about that. are you ignoring anything important you read? it seems so.

    so he says "we removed it to increase the game responsiveness".

    you say "you can have both".

    so now what? whats your point?
    Plenty of games have done what he says is impossible.

    Swivel animations have nothing to do with responsiveness.

    Take your pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    Oh well it really makes me SICK about you flamer people... unable to see what yoshi p. is doing. he is actually making a real Final Fantasy out of the "shity" FF Online franchise.





    i love them.. its like saying "remove the hand cursor from game" its like saying "remove the blue User Interface from game"

    because you need your ocher .... earth in earth color tones. ITS FINAL FANTASY now for f. sake.

    and i scream "hurray". let it be a different game than FFXIV 1.0. and a different game than FFXI! Let Final Fantasy Online turn into a real FF Franchise. which is about blue neon User Interfaces ... and what the heck ever. Ever Played star ocean Online? its so fresh that design in contrast to all western MMorpgs.

    Let FFXIV be to look different... to these "earth in earth" colors.




    well then you have no idea at all. the FFXI team played Everquest back then... these boss instances etc. are everquest gameplay mechanics actually. the whole grind as well.




    well not dumber than you who turns on spot for years "i want to have the same online experience which i had in FFXI".


    FFX, FFXII, FFIX... all offer such a great gameplay experience.. and you know what? it did not had 1-3 extra tip tap animations.. But well it was actually Final Fantasy and fun.
    Its a good thing that they actually care now about gameplay and not about the look of it.

    deal with my opinion and leave it. but you dont have to call it "dumb" when you dont agree with my opinion. thats rude and stupid. i dont have to like what you like. im fighting for my opinion and i dont care about your mainstream opinion.



    they create their own graphics style.. if the graphics style is to mix up a setting from Middle Ages with steam punky blue neon graphics then its a stemp from Square Enix. it was there in every final fantasy i can imagine for the last years.

    and i think its freshy. you dont have to like it. i like it ^^ i think its a comfort thing^




    well that had no stopping animation which took about 1-2 seconds either... how dare me having fun in those offline FF's either, without a stopping animation which is causing to make the gameplay sluggish?

    they removed it because its not to complicated to design it they removed it due to fluent gameplay as yoshida mentioned.

    people are not open for changes, thats the problem.
    Those blue lines they need to go >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    Plenty of games have done what he says is impossible.

    Swivel animations have nothing to do with responsiveness.

    Take your pick.
    what i just can say.. i dont give a shit about that animation.. its a game.. a final fantasy game. i think "normal" people, who dont read through the forums any day wont give a damn about that, too.

    what they just notice is when a game is not fun .. which starts with a terrible unresponsive gameplay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    what i just can say.. i dont give a shit about that animation.. its a game.. a final fantasy game. i think "normal" people, who dont read through the forums any day wont give a damn about that, too.
    They should call it Tonkra Tonkra XIV: A Tonkra Tonkra.

    Because clearly, you know... It only matters how you feel about the game.

    And yes, I'm sure all the people who are complaining about it are abnormal. Clearly nobody normal could care about aesthetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolf View Post
    Because clearly, you know... It only matters how you feel about the game.
    Thats so short minded. What are you doing then?

    at least in contrast to you i am also talking about what other people (people who left the game right after the release because of this and that) could think about it. you dont.

    and i say they wont give a fuck about that, ah.. and grass as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    Thats so short minded. What are you doing then?

    in contrast to you i also say what other people could think about it. you dont.
    I've never stated that the sole reason they shouldn't add a feature, is because I care/don't care about it. I don't care about crafting, that doesn't mean that they shouldn't make a great crafting system.

    And clearly I'm not the only one who cares about the animations being sloppy. Just look back in the thread.
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