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[Tonkra]

You
Can
Have
Both

Hundreds upon hundreds of games have fluent gameplay, with aesthetically pleasing animations.

examples ? and please do not say GW2 or somethin ;XD

This isn't either/or. They aren't mutually exclusive. The problem with XIV wasn't based on the complexities of the animations, it was based on the animation lock.

well im pretty sure they tried out themselves on their test server.

server lag -> was gone, animation lock -> gone.. stopping animation -> "hmm it still feels like something is delaying the gameplay" ... *removement of stopping animation* -> "so now it feels even more reactive than before".

its about maximizing the reactive gameplay. the more less time is in between pressing the button and between actually perform the action the better it is. there have been many factors in 1.0. which delayed the game's reaction.


who knows? But we already had a statement of yoshi p. clarifying exactly about this concern. you mean he is lieing? or his team to incapable to do so?
they have test servers to try out things on their own. and if it feels much better when you leave out that animation... do you want to stick to it then?

well i like the nintendo philosophy then... focus on fun and on gameplay. As i mentioned. Offline final fantasys did'nt have these animations either and did not make it more worse without it.

[Ingolf]

examples ? and please do not say GW2 or somethin ;XD



well im pretty sure they tried out themselves.

server lag -> was gone, animation lock -> gone.. stopping animation -> "hmm it still feels like something is delaying the gameplay" ... *removing of stopping animation* -> "so now it feels even more reactive than before".

its about maximizing the reactive gameplay. the more less time is in between pressing the button and between actually perform the action the better it is.


who knows? But we already had a statement of yoshi p. clarifying exactly about this concern. you mean he is lieing? or his team to incapable to do so?

There are so many examples I could give, MMO and non MMO alike. And no, I think his team is very capable, I think people like you who accept any shit shown to you, make him realise he doesn't have to push the extra mile. You're essentially making XIV into a worse game.

You can have actions happen mid animation. Plenty of games do this.

[KiriA500]

There are so many examples I could give, MMO and non MMO alike. And no, I think his team is very capable, I think people like you who accept any shit shown to you, make him realise he doesn't have to push the extra mile. You're essentially making XIV into a worse game.

You can have actions happen mid animation. Plenty of games do this.

[Tonkra]

There are so many examples I could give, MMO and non MMO alike. And no, I think his team is very capable, I think people like you who accept any shit shown to you, make him realise he doesn't have to push the extra mile. You're essentially making XIV into a worse game.

You can have actions happen mid animation. Plenty of games do this.

well actually i was refering to yoshidas statement about that. are you ignoring anything important you read? it seems so.

Yoshi P. says "we removed it to increase the game responsiveness".

you say "you can have both".

so let us call Yoshi being a lier.. or the development team to incapable.

[Ingolf]

well actually i was refering to yoshidas statement about that. are you ignoring anything important you read? it seems so.

so he says "we removed it to increase the game responsiveness".

you say "you can have both".

so now what? whats your point?

Plenty of games have done what he says is impossible.

Swivel animations have nothing to do with responsiveness.

Take your pick.

[Tonkra]

Plenty of games have done what he says is impossible.

Swivel animations have nothing to do with responsiveness.

Take your pick.

what i just can say.. i dont give a shit about that animation.. its a game.. a final fantasy game. i think "normal" people, who dont read through the forums any day wont give a damn about that, too.

what they just notice is when a game is not fun .. which starts with a terrible unresponsive gameplay.

[Ingolf]

what i just can say.. i dont give a shit about that animation.. its a game.. a final fantasy game. i think "normal" people, who dont read through the forums any day wont give a damn about that, too.

They should call it Tonkra Tonkra XIV: A Tonkra Tonkra.

Because clearly, you know... It only matters how you feel about the game.

And yes, I'm sure all the people who are complaining about it are abnormal. Clearly nobody normal could care about aesthetics.

[Tonkra]

Because clearly, you know... It only matters how you feel about the game.

Thats so short minded. What are you doing then?

at least in contrast to you i am also talking about what other people (people who left the game right after the release because of this and that) could think about it. you dont.

and i say they wont give a fuck about that, ah.. and grass as well.

[Gramul]

When did I say it wasn't important? I just feel that it's not the most important thing.

I'm not trying to discredit your concern. I understand what you're saying 100% with the animations. The thing is, sometimes things just don't go your way. Yes, it's unfair, but that's how things work. You can't always get what you want.

My advice: suck it up and deal with it. Believe me, I'm devastated that this game will never have awesome dance emotes, but I don't let that bring down my experience. I enjoy the game, so I keep playing it.

If we just "dealt with it", we'd all be in random servers and coloring our equipment based on their stats.

So, no. I will not "Just deal with it." I will keep informing the team that it's an issue many of us care about and would really add a perfect touch to the game. That's the whole point of these forums. Just let the people complain. What is seriously the worst that will happen? You'll be annoyed? Deal with it. The best that will happen is a game with better animations.

An animation blend or two really shouldn't tax a game in this day and age. Even an MMO.

So let us call Yoshi being a lair.. or the development team to incapable.

Is that out of the question?

They don't have a ton of experience with MMO's or PC. Most modern games don't seem to have a problem with it. GW2's actual animations themselves may not look so fantastic, but it can still handle an animation blending system just fine. No latency or locking issues at all. Imagine Square's artists and animators being able to work with that.

[KiriA500]

If we just "dealt with it", we'd all be in random servers and coloring our equipment based on their stats.

...what?

Also, if you think the devs actually listen to the English General Discussion board, you're funny.