SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Abriael]

And this is for people concerned about current RMT in FFXIV, this is how SE handled the situation previously with their previous online title:

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...13/detail.html

Just for the sharing and caring of knowledge.

And it didn't work.

[Kiroh]

And it didn't work.

If by "work" you mean cutting down on the amount of gil available to RMT and buyers and greatly (GREATLY) decreasing the runaway inflation in a fairly short amount of time, then at least on my server, yes it did work.

If by "work" you mean "wave a magic wand and suddenly make all RMT go poof like some kind of SE/Gandalf hybrid" then no, it (and everything every MMO company has ever done ever) did not work.

[A_Hortensia]

And it didn't work.

10 char. Are you serious? (In regards to FFXI Special Task Force)

It did work. We saw progress. Our AHs weren't inflated to hell.
We saw mass amounts of RMT disappear from Diabolos. We regained a lot of control in a lot of in-game economic areas where we desperately needed it back, like fishing and mining.

We reported, the GMs answered, they said: "We'll look into it" and within weeks, tons of accounts were banned, gil was frozen. We even had non-RMT casualties in the process, with the global bans of people who were caught duplicating items in Salvage. Some people were mad, most just remade their characters, or fought for their characters back and they were glad that SE was serious about making FFXI the absolute best experience they could, even when they didn't have to.

Linkshells notorious for botting claims got some of their accounts banned, even accounts had held the entire LS bank. Everyone who tried to break the ToS in any regards, not just chinese teenagers in internet cafe sweatshops, were dealt with. SE loves the hell out of their products, and their customers, they worked their asses off.

I was there, I experienced all of that, and I was grateful.

There is no way to reduce crime to 0%. There's no way to reduce RMT to 0%.
But holy hell did they ever put in the work. AND, they kept us updated constantly on their progress.

I don't even.. I can't even..

[Abriael]

10 char. Are you serious? (In regards to FFXI Special Task Force)

It did work. We saw progress. Our AHs weren't inflated to hell.

The massive prices on the AH I've seen just a few months ago say the opposite.

Banning accounts works very badly in combating RMT, because besides the very possible collateral damage (and in fact it happened), RMTs have access to a virtually infinite number of accounts through credential theft or credit card fraud.

What SE did in XI is simply a very extensive game of whack-a-mole.

I don't need opinion, RMT exist in all MMOs and I can link you to any site proving it. Fact is you're talking out of your ass and I have sources to back up my claims.

Too bad that all you can prove is nothing else than a strawman argument, as no one here argued that RMT doesn't exist in any game. Try harder

[Kiroh]

The massive prices on the AH I've seen just a few months ago say the opposite.

Banning accounts works very badly in combating RMT, because besides the very possible collateral damage (and in fact it happened), RMTs have access to a virtually infinite number of accounts through credential theft or credit card fraud.

What SE did in XI is simply a very extensive game of whack-a-mole.



Too bad that all you can prove is nothing else than a strawman argument, as no one here argued that RMT doesn't exist in any game. Try harder

I can give you links to many sites all selling currency for the games this system supposedly worked in, no fewer than a dozen each. Not only do RMT exist for those games, they're all over the place.

Still waiting for even one link supporting this system's effectiveness.

[axemtitanium]

I can give you links to many sites all selling currency for the games this system supposedly worked in, no fewer than a dozen each. Not only do RMT exist for those games, they're all over the place.

Still waiting for even one link supporting this system's effectiveness.

http://rushprnews.com/2012/07/11/new...nomy-by-mmobux



This graph shows that RMT prices for in-game currency in EVE have dropped nearly 75% since the introduction of the PLEX system in 2009. That means that RMTers have earned 75% less profits since PLEX was implemented. PLEX works. Sources, huzzah!

[Abriael]

http://rushprnews.com/2012/07/11/new...nomy-by-mmobux



This graph shows that RMT prices for in-game currency in EVE have dropped nearly 75% since the introduction of the PLEX system in 2009. That means that RMTers have earned 75% less profits since PLEX was implemented. PLEX works. Sources, huzzah!

Very nice. Thanks Another post that goes to the first page.

[GodseijuroHiko]

Very nice. Thanks Another post that goes to the first page.

Too bad it'll be ignored lol.

[Duuude007]

This graph shows that RMT prices for in-game currency in EVE have dropped nearly 75% since the introduction of the PLEX system in 2009. That means that RMTers have earned 75% less profits since PLEX was implemented. PLEX works. Sources, huzzah!

Um, be careful how you are reading this chart. What we see here can also directly correlate with the drop in ISK value due to inflation.

And let me throw yet another wrench into the works:

PLEX is the name adopted for GTC. GTC was implemented 2006 or earlier, long before this graph is monitoring.

Regardless, not only are you trying to align plex with a date on the graph which does not line up, but the prices continually fluctuate to the point where there is no direct correlation between GTC/PLEX and RMT activity.

[axemtitanium]

Um, be careful how you are reading this chart. What we see here can also directly correlate with the drop in ISK value due to inflation.

And let me throw yet another wrench into the works:

PLEX is the name adopted for GTC. GTC was implemented 2006 or earlier, long before this graph is monitoring.

Regardless, not only are you trying to align plex with a date on the graph which does not line up, but the prices continually fluctuate to the point where there is no direct correlation between GTC/PLEX and RMT activity.

I've never played EVE but as far as I can tell, GTC was not implemented specifically as an RMT countermeasure. Rather it was a glorified subscription-gifting system---like gifting Xbox Live 12-month cards before that became a real thing.