SE Please implement a Chonoscroll/PLEX system in FFXIV: ARR

[Nuru]

I really don't understand why it is hard to grasp this concept:

You buy the item with money. $15 or so.

You use that item to activate the account, leading to you earning enough gil to purchase another item using gil (in-game currency)

SE makes no money, and thus, the cycle continues. At least, this is my understanding of it. Even if the item was unique and not tradable.

This idea would seem great when the game has aged enough and subs were decreasing, but as a new game, I'm sure SE wouldn't want to take the risk of this payment system.

[axemtitanium]

I really don't understand why it is hard to grasp this concept:

You buy the item with money. $15 or so.

You use that item to activate the account, leading to you earning enough gil to purchase another item using gil (in-game currency)

SE makes no money, and thus, the cycle continues. At least, this is my understanding of it. Even if the item was unique and not tradable.

This idea would seem great when the game has aged enough and subs were decreasing, but as a new game, I'm sure SE wouldn't want to take the risk of this payment system.

Wha? I think you misunderstand how it works. When you buy the item, you can either use it or sell it, not both. You can EITHER use the item on yourself to increase your subscription OR sell it to someone else to use. It's not permanent or U/U. When you use it on yourself to activate the account, you can't then also sell it for a profit. If you want another one (to use or sell), you have to pay another $15 or whatever.

[AhmeraMae]

I really don't understand why it is hard to grasp this concept:

You buy the item with money. $15 or so.

You use that item to activate the account, leading to you earning enough gil to purchase another item using gil (in-game currency)

SE makes no money, and thus, the cycle continues. At least, this is my understanding of it. Even if the item was unique and not tradable.

This idea would seem great when the game has aged enough and subs were decreasing, but as a new game, I'm sure SE wouldn't want to take the risk of this payment system.

I think every stone that this topic has to offer was turned and discussed thoroughly.

[GodseijuroHiko]

I think every stone that this topic has to offer was turned and discussed thoroughly.

Yes, I see no attempted solutions here. (How do YOU propose RMT be combated? Still waiting on an answer to this btw. Please continue to ignore it)I'm not gonna call people idiots and jerks for not agreeing with me.

I'm gonna just lurk. Every other post is to tell someone they don't understand the system. You can only scream "ignorance" so many times.

[AhmeraMae]

Yes, I see no attempted solutions here. (How do YOU propose RMT be combated? Still waiting on an answer to this btw. Please continue to ignore it)I'm not gonna call people idiots and jerks for not agreeing with me.

I'm gonna just lurk. Every other post is to tell someone they don't understand the system. You can only scream "ignorance" so many times.

I'm not sure if you quoted me because you agree with my post or because I, if so, unintentionally, ignored one of your posts that was directed at me earlier today.

[GodseijuroHiko]

I'm not sure if you quoted me because you agree with my post or because I, if so, unintentionally, ignored one of your posts that was directed at me earlier today.

Yes it was an agreement.

[Duuude007]

leading to you earning enough gil to purchase another item using gil (in-game currency)

Im still not on board with doing this, but your math is a bit off. you may be purchasing the item from a player with gil, but where did they purchase it? with dollars. the cycle would not be broken as the crysta is still payed initially with real money.

[A_Hortensia]

Nuru: What you posted was accurate except for the fact that SE is going to make money. It just won't be your money. It'll be someone else's money. Someone else will buy the subscription, and sell that subscription to you for gil. Technically, SE is going to be making the same amount of money regardless, except the person who spent the USD is getting extra in-game gil out of the whole deal. Kind of/sort of makes you and and guy you bought the item from RMT in the sense that you just spent gil on USD, and they just spent USD on gil.

Hopefully that's clear.

This idea would seem great when the game has aged enough and subs were decreasing, but as a new game, I'm sure SE wouldn't want to take the risk of this payment system.

I agree with this big time. There's no reason for them to change how they do things, when their current model made them a huge amount of success from FFXI. I'm certain they want to replicate that model and success with FFXIV.

And then my personal beliefs, which I don't want to be contested.. I'm just sharing:

FFXIV should not be free to play for anyone. Even if the money is coming from somewhere/someone else.

By playing and subscribing to the game service, you should be proud with your decision to enjoy this high caliber product, while supporting the hard-working high caliber staff and company. Your own money should speak for you, not somebody else's. Be part of the community and let everyone be equals as customers.

This debate is a bit one sided.
they call you a jerk,

It seemed like you being being a jerk, and it has nothing to do with the debate.
I just wanted to call you out if you were intentionally trying to be a jerk. Not insulting you~
Please forgive me. ._.

[GodseijuroHiko]

Nuru: What you posted was accurate except for the fact that SE is going to make money. It just won't be your money. It'll be someone else's money. Someone else will buy the subscription, and sell that subscription to you for gil. Technically, SE is going to be making the same amount of money regardless, except the person who spent the USD is getting extra in-game gil out of the whole deal. Kind of/sort of makes you and and guy you bought the item from RMT in the sense that you just spent gil on USD, and they just spent USD on gil.

Hopefully that's clear.



I agree with this big time. There's no reason for them to change how they do things, when their current model made them a huge amount of success from FFXI. I'm certain they want to replicate that model and success with FFXIV.

And then my personal beliefs, which I don't want to be contested.. I'm just sharing:

FFXIV should not be free to play for anyone. Even if the money is coming from somewhere/someone else.

By playing and subscribing to the game service, you should be proud with your decision to enjoy this high caliber product, while supporting the hard-working high caliber staff and company. Your own money should speak for you, not somebody else's. Be part of the community and let everyone be equals as customers.

I agree with that also that it isn't something that is needed anytime soon.

I made a post earlier about people being elitist about FFXIV, or keeping it "pure."
We don't want poor people, or 12 year olds or rich people who have extra cash to burn to get ahead. Not contesting what you believe in. Just commenting on the trends of the posts before yours.

[Abriael]

I made a post earlier about people being elitist about FFXIV, or keeping it "pure."

We don't want poor people,

Honestly I can't help but finding this sequence of sentences all kinds of inappropriate.


PS: Elitism and ego don't pay SE's bills and development.