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    And this is for people concerned about current RMT in FFXIV, this is how SE handled the situation previously with their previous online title:

    http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...13/detail.html

    Just for the sharing and caring of knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Hortensia View Post
    And this is for people concerned about current RMT in FFXIV, this is how SE handled the situation previously with their previous online title:

    http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...13/detail.html

    Just for the sharing and caring of knowledge.
    And it didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    And it didn't work.
    If by "work" you mean cutting down on the amount of gil available to RMT and buyers and greatly (GREATLY) decreasing the runaway inflation in a fairly short amount of time, then at least on my server, yes it did work.

    If by "work" you mean "wave a magic wand and suddenly make all RMT go poof like some kind of SE/Gandalf hybrid" then no, it (and everything every MMO company has ever done ever) did not work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    And it didn't work.
    10 char. Are you serious? (In regards to FFXI Special Task Force)

    It did work. We saw progress. Our AHs weren't inflated to hell.
    We saw mass amounts of RMT disappear from Diabolos. We regained a lot of control in a lot of in-game economic areas where we desperately needed it back, like fishing and mining.

    We reported, the GMs answered, they said: "We'll look into it" and within weeks, tons of accounts were banned, gil was frozen. We even had non-RMT casualties in the process, with the global bans of people who were caught duplicating items in Salvage. Some people were mad, most just remade their characters, or fought for their characters back and they were glad that SE was serious about making FFXI the absolute best experience they could, even when they didn't have to.

    Linkshells notorious for botting claims got some of their accounts banned, even accounts had held the entire LS bank. Everyone who tried to break the ToS in any regards, not just chinese teenagers in internet cafe sweatshops, were dealt with. SE loves the hell out of their products, and their customers, they worked their asses off.

    I was there, I experienced all of that, and I was grateful.

    There is no way to reduce crime to 0%. There's no way to reduce RMT to 0%.
    But holy hell did they ever put in the work. AND, they kept us updated constantly on their progress.

    I don't even.. I can't even..
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Hortensia View Post
    10 char. Are you serious? (In regards to FFXI Special Task Force)

    It did work. We saw progress. Our AHs weren't inflated to hell.
    The massive prices on the AH I've seen just a few months ago say the opposite.

    Banning accounts works very badly in combating RMT, because besides the very possible collateral damage (and in fact it happened), RMTs have access to a virtually infinite number of accounts through credential theft or credit card fraud.

    What SE did in XI is simply a very extensive game of whack-a-mole.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    I don't need opinion, RMT exist in all MMOs and I can link you to any site proving it. Fact is you're talking out of your ass and I have sources to back up my claims.
    Too bad that all you can prove is nothing else than a strawman argument, as no one here argued that RMT doesn't exist in any game. Try harder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    The massive prices on the AH I've seen just a few months ago say the opposite.

    Banning accounts works very badly in combating RMT, because besides the very possible collateral damage (and in fact it happened), RMTs have access to a virtually infinite number of accounts through credential theft or credit card fraud.

    What SE did in XI is simply a very extensive game of whack-a-mole.



    Too bad that all you can prove is nothing else than a strawman argument, as no one here argued that RMT doesn't exist in any game. Try harder
    I can give you links to many sites all selling currency for the games this system supposedly worked in, no fewer than a dozen each. Not only do RMT exist for those games, they're all over the place.

    Still waiting for even one link supporting this system's effectiveness.
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    Does ANYONE have an idea that could effectively combat RMT? Please share with the class. Leaving it up to SE hasn't worked well yet. Anyone who lost claim to the 24/7 campers might feel some way about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodseijuroHiko View Post
    Does ANYONE have an idea that could effectively combat RMT? Please share with the class. Leaving it up to SE hasn't worked well yet. Anyone who lost claim to the 24/7 campers might feel some way about it.
    That would be off topic, I'd say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    That would be off topic, I'd say.
    I agree, kinda. My bad. Let's continue to argue in circles. Its a good system. RMT Bad, no. You don't even understand the system, don't comment. The system works, but SE will never allow it. I see how the system could work but I don't want it. ||:||
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    Quote Originally Posted by GodseijuroHiko View Post
    I agree, kinda. My bad. Let's continue to argue in circles. Its a good system. RMT Bad, no. You don't even understand the system, don't comment. The system works, but SE will never allow it. I see how the system could work but I don't want it. ||:||
    That's not much of a problem. People can cry for their side as much as they want, but the decision is for SE to take, and if someone thinks that anything said here can influence that decision one way or another, I'll sure laugh.

    All the fearmongers are doing is bumping this thread over and over, raising the chance that the idea will reach the right people that do have the tools and the power to make a decision. That's all i need.
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