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    Decommissioning the current hardware and buying brand new hardware and sending it to the new regional data centers (which they're going to have to do anyway) is an option too.

    Let's not pretend to know the inner workings of SE or make assumptions on things. They'll tell us what we want to know when they're ready. We can sit here and say what we want to hear until we're blue in the face, but that's not going to change their plans at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    Decommissioning the current hardware and buying brand new hardware and sending it to the new regional data centers (which they're going to have to do anyway) is an option too.

    Let's not pretend to know the inner workings of SE or make assumptions on things. They'll tell us what we want to know when they're ready. We can sit here and say what we want to hear until we're blue in the face, but that's not going to change their plans at the end of the day.
    But everyone is assuming things right now :/ why not just throw in the assumption that they are moving the servers to an orbital space station.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Not that SE would explain every single Detail on their technical Plans to us, but i also think they would tell us if they plan to move the current existing server.

    Speaking of deductive reasoning. Using Theories about Servers will be regional or segrated, without knowing if they are moving or not, is the same no? Why would you assume they would move in first place? But yeah, it is an assumption. Like it or not, assuming SE will move them is actually an assumption too, which is actually more expensive for the Company. So SE would need a good reason to do it.

    Something i would like to add:

    Most people obviously dont think about the cost of moving a Server. So why would SE move the Server, if they could save the Money and buy them in the Region of the Data-Center? It is not like a Game-Server is something you could carry around like a PC.



    To give People an Idea. So it is more reasonable to let the current Server's stay in Japan instead of moving them, since the cost-factor would be hilarious to move the around the whole Globe. Like it or not, guessing around that SE would actually move them in first place is an assumption too. And also, since it would be expensive to do it, SE would need a really good reason to do it.
    This makes no sense? Why would you assume because the server is a big ass machine in Japan that it will stay in Japan and that the server itself has anything to do with it?

    They can easily deliver the data themselves or send it ya know by digital means. You dont need to take the hardware. They do have a couple of months until we need our data back.

    They will likely use a branded data center like Sony and thus you wouldn't move hardware, sony has the hardware, all they need is the digital data which can be sent over by easier means in several different ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Not that SE would explain every single Detail on their technical Plans to us, but i also think they would tell us if they plan to move the current existing server.
    On this topic they will, it's just a matter of when they do it.
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    They don't have to "move" the "physical" server.

    They can have some tech install a new more powerful server in some other region, then copy the data from a current server to the new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Most of the time they are. XD At least in the Companies i work. But yeah, that is why i assume they stay in Japan. SE never said they would move it in first place and you need very good reasons to take the costs to do it.
    They don't have to physically move the server to move the world. They can just transfer the data. Isn't that what today's final save is for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    This makes no sense? Why would you assume because the server is a big ass machine in Japan that it will stay in Japan and that the server itself has anything to do with it?

    They can easily deliver the data themselves or send it ya know by digital means. You dont need to take the hardware. They do have a couple of months until we need our data back.

    They will likely use a branded data center like Sony and thus you wouldn't move hardware, sony has the hardware, all they need is the digital data which can be sent over by easier means in several different ways.
    Maybe they could print the data onto scrolls of paper. Then they could put those scrolls into capsules. After that, they could send those capsules to the EU and US through a series of tubes. Then use scanners to scan the data into the new data centers.

    That still sounds easier than moving the servers. Because, you know, they're bolted down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    This makes no sense? Why would you assume because the server is a big ass machine in Japan that it will stay in Japan and that the server itself has anything to do with it?
    Simple: Because moving it ( physically or digital ) = Cost for the Company. How does that not make sense?

    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    They will likely use a branded data center like Sony and thus you wouldn't move hardware, sony has the hardware, all they need is the digital data which can be sent over by easier means in several different ways.
    COULD.. this is the point. What people do in this Thread; They assume right away that the current Server/data will be moved. Moving it, costs money and it does not matter if you "just" do it the digital way or actually physically move the server. And assumptions again about the way how they would do it. SE did not say a single word that they would move currently existing servers, that is what i go with until SE says something about it. There is such no way to assume that the Servers/Data will be moved back and forth, without having a reason to do it.

    I dont say it is impossible. I allready stated that SE could do it, but why would they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Simple: Because moving it ( physically or digital ) = Cost for the Company. How does that not make sense?



    COULD.. this is the point. What people do in this Thread; They assume right away that the current Server/data will be moved. Moving it, costs money and it does not matter if you "just" do it the digital way or actually physically move the server. And assumptions again about the way how they would do it. SE did not say a single word that they would move currently existing servers, that is what i go with until SE says something about it. There is such no way to assume that the Servers/Data will be moved back and forth, without having a reason to do it.

    I dont say it is impossible. I allready stated that SE could do it, but why would they?
    The better question is why wouldn't they? Or really, why would they create data centers in the US and EU to fix a problem the current player base complains about, but turn around and not let us transfer to the new data centers?

    TBH, the only question in my mind is; which worlds will be located in which region?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Simple: Because moving it ( physically or digital ) = Cost for the Company. How does that not make sense?

    COULD.. this is the point. What people do in this Thread; They assume right away that the current Server/data will be moved. Moving it, costs money and it does not matter if you "just" do it the digital way or actually physically move the server. And assumptions again about the way how they would do it. SE did not say a single word that they would move currently existing servers, that is what i go with until SE says something about it. There is such no way to assume that the Servers/Data will be moved back and forth, without having a reason to do it.

    I don't say it is impossible. I already stated that SE could do it, but why would they?
    You are assuming they won't and then complain other people are assuming they will? :/

    Moving data digitally does not cost a lot, companies do it all the time. Data from all over gets moved around, we're not in the stone age, moving the contents of character data is not like going to the moon...

    Like Molly stated, why would they make so much effort to make data centers if only the new people get access to that?

    The thing is you're getting so angry about "until SE says something", They have NOT said they will NOT move the servers. YOU are assuming this. Just like we are assuming they WILL, we "think" that, just like you "think" they wont.

    Don't complain about others thinking something and assuming something when you're doing the exact same thing yourself. And Se have not mentioned anything regarding existing characters, nor for or against the argument.
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