Regional Segregation

[Zdenka]

I think its confusing because they labeled the fresh servers as new servers and it wasn't the best word to use.

SE has implied many, many, many times that the servers for 2.0 are going to be new servers.

Remember all the times you saw:

With current server its not possible.
This will be possible in 2.0 with new server and planning to do.
This may be hard to implement with current server.

The reason for this is that SE probably used the old decommissioned FFXI servers for FFXIV, which are reeeeeally old now. Remember a game world is just a cluster of data, its not an actual server. (Its just housed on one via the host client) Therefor that data can be moved relatively easily. Remember SERVER is not mutually inclusive with WORLD. Lets say Server1 is housing Durandal and Server6 is housing Sargantanas; its possible for them to move Durandal to Server6 and Sargantanas to Server1 by using an intermediary. Just because the Worlds are on certain servers now doesn't mean they can't move off.

At my work we have changed servers multiple times. What happens is the data is mirrored onto the new server, but due to a better server software and obviously better hardware it runs much much quicker. Also many of its basic functions increase in output (this is probably why the "will be possible in 2.0 with new servers" appeared a lot).

For example our old server had a SQL table limitation of 80 items. When we swapped to new hardware+software the SQL table limitation increased to around 240 (not sure exactly because we haven't made anything with that many items so far).

So by basic logic one assumes ARR cannot run on the servers which are currently in use because of the limitations, so therefor all servers for 2.0 will be either brand new servers or the current servers with updated software but I would assume (omg I know you guys hate assuming tho the ones that hate it do the most) that all servers will be new for 2.0.

[Nikkita]

So by basic logic one assumes ARR cannot run on the servers which are currently in use because of the limitations, so therefor all servers for 2.0 will be either brand new servers or the current servers with updated software but I would assume (omg I know you guys hate assuming tho the ones that hate it do the most) that all servers will be new for 2.0.

I didn't want to quote all what you said cuz it was long but I can agree there is some confusion because of terms that get used interchangably. World most of the time equates to server because each World usualy has it's own server to operate on. That said I am under the impression they are swapping out to all NEW server hardware for ALL Worlds existing and newly created. Our current worlds aren't going away just being placed on new hardware.

[Kerwin]

Less JP Only, the better. I hope all this testing Irons out all those issues were language barrier made it impossible to do content. At least in SOME peoples eyes.

[VanillaLatte]

It doesn't make sense if the servers are in japan while the data centers are regional. That's like a NA client has high latency to the server since they are in japan. Then the server will have to suffer high latency again communicating with the data center.

[Nikkita]

It doesn't make sense if the servers are in japan while the data centers are regional. That's like a NA client has high latency to the server since they are in japan. Then the server will have to suffer high latency again communicating with the data center.

It also doesn't make sense to call it a Data Center if it really is just a Regional Server. Why make the differentciation. Is this really just a matter of semantics? I get Data Centers house "servers" as in hardware. But when you talk about Worlds they are also housed on A server. (hardware) because that's why one can have a problem and not others. So I again ask why call it a Data Center and not Regional Servers because I'm sorry the arguements made say there really is no difference.

[Molly_Millions]

It also doesn't make sense to call it a Data Center if it really is just a Regional Server. Why make the differentciation. Is this really just a matter of semantics? I get Data Centers house "servers" as in hardware. But when you talk about Worlds they are also housed on A server. (hardware) because that's why one can have a problem and not others. So I again ask why call it a Data Center and not Regional Servers because I'm sorry the arguements made say there really is no difference.

It makes sense to call it a data center when each world actually consists of multiple servers, which they do.

[Reika]

Less JP Only, the better. I hope all this testing Irons out all those issues were language barrier made it impossible to do content. At least in SOME peoples eyes.

Language barriers are made of cheap recycled cardboard. Some people.... they just refuse to get through it for their own personal reasons. Me, my 1st moogle kill, 1st AV/CC 5 chest run, 1st Hamlet defense, and 1st garuda kill and every one after were in JP parties (all pugs too!), some were listed as "JP Only". And, they all know I aint Japanese.

[Mardel]

I swear, people on these forums make it seem like "simple" things are rocket science and create absurd ideas and pose them as "logical". To be frank, this is what is happening (in TLDR form):

1. Our Data was saved.
2. Servers are purchased/rented in different Regions
3. 2.0 data is being placed on them
4. Using Server Population servers are named (i.e. Aegis goes to Japan due to high JP population, Ragnarok goes to EU)
5. At game launch we connect onto a login server, re-create character and choose an "existing server"
6. I go to _____ because the high NA population (meaning it is in the US)
7. Enjoy 2.0 on the region/server of choice

I'd eliminate "cost" factors as much as possible as they are going to do nearly whatever it takes to make this not suck due to damaged image.

[Reika]

I swear, people on these forums make it seem like "simple" things are rocket science and create absurd ideas and pose them as "logical". To be frank, this is what is happening (in TLDR form):

1. Our Data was saved.
2. Servers are purchased/rented in different Regions
3. 2.0 data is being placed on them
4. Using Server Population servers are named (i.e. Aegis goes to Japan due to high JP population, Ragnarok goes to EU)
5. At game launch we connect onto a login server, re-create character and choose an "existing server"
6. I go to _____ because the high NA population (meaning it is in the US)
7. Enjoy 2.0 on the region/server of choice

I'd eliminate "cost" factors as much as possible as they are going to do nearly whatever it takes to make this not suck due to damaged image.

So where did you hear 4 - 6 from?

[Mardel]

So where did you hear 4 - 6 from?

No where but there is a reason behind census polls and it logistically speaking the easiest approach to avoid more data movements is to locate the regional server by the population base. I mean would you put Ragnorak in Japan which was labeled a European server? Doubtful.

If they decide to rename them all entirely they can throw the naming schematics out of the equation and to be honest it doesn't matter what they are named and where they are placed. Just from a database standpoint I'd want most my servers with Japanese majority servers to likely be in Japan, not America.