What XIV can take from XI to make it better

[Orophin]

XI's economy was more stable. Price fluctuations where minimal or very gradual, supply and demand balanced. In XIV everything is crazy easy to get, the supply for most items far exceeds the demand causing really slow sales, 1 day something will be 3k, next day it is 11k, next day it is 5k.

If you look at the market prior to the Atomos event, I'd make arguments towards it fluctuating as much as it did just due to the price of something being right in your face. FFXI only had a price history; everything else was guesswork. Some undercutting ensued, but for the most part things stayed stable if supply levels were normal. If FFXIV kept price history but didn't show what an item was listed for and only showed how many were listed, it MAY balance things out some, but nothing is certain.

[Shougun]

If you look at the market prior to the Atomos event, I'd make arguments towards it fluctuating as much as it did just due to the price of something being right in your face. FFXI only had a price history; everything else was guesswork. Some undercutting ensued, but for the most part things stayed stable if supply levels were normal. If FFXIV kept price history but didn't show what an item was listed for and only showed how many were listed, it MAY balance things out some, but nothing is certain.

That would do something, may create stability - but it makes buying something a little bit of a pain lol.

"200".."201".."205".."210"..damn no cheap ones up atm "230".. fack.."270" finally..

It would be interesting to test out in FFXIV beta.

[Alhanelem]

If you look at the market prior to the Atomos event, I'd make arguments towards it fluctuating as much as it did just due to the price of something being right in your face. FFXI only had a price history; everything else was guesswork. Some undercutting ensued, but for the most part things stayed stable if supply levels were normal. If FFXIV kept price history but didn't show what an item was listed for and only showed how many were listed, it MAY balance things out some, but nothing is certain.

FFXI's system didn't prevent undercutting at all. People still did it constantly just as they do in this game. Undercutting in fact is what keeps prices from inflating (durrrr). It is what will prevent prices from being out of control as some people are preditcing with the redenomination. What I hated about XI's system is you had to guess what the lowest price was- if you bid more, you paid more, and the person with the lowest price sold the item and gets the higher amount you paid anyway. If anything this encourages undercutting more than being able to see the prices. At least with XIV's system you don't have to guess what you're going to pay- You also aren't obligated to buy the cheapest one- and no matter which item you buy, you know how much you are paying and the buyer knows how much they are receiving. Undercutting is part of every economy, be it video game or real life. You have to accept that it exists and that it will happen no matter what you try to do about it.

Simple fact: if there is an above average supply of an item, people will be able to under cut because there are so many available- people dont want to pay high prices for a common good. If the supply drops, people aren't able to undercut because it doesn't help them sell faster, so they raise their price in order to get more out of each sale.

Supply and demand people. High supply= "undercutting," low supply = "price gouging" Either way, someone always wins and someone always loses.