SE stop doing the "norm"

[Rokien]

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This thread isn't about ffxi, I just brought it up as a point. Though to get to your point, FFXI is still there, i can log on right now if i wanted to and get the same feeling as I did a year or so ago. It's not about "nostalgia" for one FFXI is still there, and I can play it. I've never asked FFXIV to be like FFXI, I've only stated and asked WHY THE HELL DIDN'T THEY DO IT AS THERE BASE FOR 1.0 or 2.0! Instead of other games that don't last, do I even have to name them?

The only thing I want back from FFXI is not the world, not the characters, but the community and the sense of adventure. These other mmos don't let you have that adventure for reasons; Quest hubs, Big Question mark markers, level of mobs, ! THIS MOB AGROS DON'T GO NEAR IT!, instances everywhere. It's not an adventure if the company is telling you where to go and what to do. FFXI didn't hold your hand, Galaxies didn't hold your hand. Every mmo now, doesn't let you go off the beaten path, because now you can complete an mmo by completing each area. Completed this area? AWESOME, go to the next and complete that.

This is why I'm REALLY looking forward to archage(though sadly it will be another 2 years before it gets over here, because that's how korean mmos work).

Sure mobs were tedious to grind, but so are quests, and even more so in my opinion, because you are still killing mobs, but you have to put in that extra leg work, also they tell you what to kill not you asking, would it be better to kill this or this at my level, what about other areas?

FFXI had it's flaws, nobody never denied it, people love ffxi for different reasons, some endgame, others the world, and me? Well me, it was the sense of adventure every time I turned it on, and doing random stuff with my friends, whether that be camp an nm, find a new cool place to hang out, story, finding random quests, farming, getting gear, unlocking areas, whatever order I want.

Now you are going to say, you can do that in 2.0, sure you can, but you know what is going to get my attention, because I'm a completionist, I see that question mark, and I have to do it, I want it gone! Also, it's not me going my own direction it's the games direction, yoshis direction, guiding me on what I should do, instead of me deciding on what to do.

FFXI is dated, combat is terrible, same with 2.0 (auto attack, blah), after playing tera, teras combat is amazing, and really engaging. Though as I said before, it's telling me what to do, guiding me though the game, just like gw2, rift, wow, any other game you can think of. I bring up ffxi for the reasons I said above, I could care less about the world the music, I just want another game that I can get lost in once again, that's what I'm looking for, and that's why I think FFXIV should be more like FFXI in hopes for that to happen again.


Lets also not forget that mmos now, are single player games with multiplayer aspects.

[Ruisu]

These other mmos don't let you have that adventure for reasons; Quest hubs, Big Question mark markers, level of mobs, ! THIS MOB AGROS DON'T GO NEAR IT!, instances everywhere.

So you want poor dated game design? Sorry, I don't like wandering around for hours just to speak to one NPC to talk around for hours to speak to another NPC just to speak to another NPC to spend hours looking for one cryptic well hidden dungeon and complete the quest in a matter of days.

It's not an adventure if the company is telling you where to go and what to do.

They're not telling you to do anything with this setup, if anything, shit like level caps is the company forcing you to do something in a particular manner.

FFXI is dated, combat is terrible, same with 2.0 (auto attack, blah), after playing tera, teras combat is amazing, and really engaging.

Funny, your profile says you're a lancer. If you're relying on auto-attack as a means of anything but getting TP, you're pretty awful at your job. You should be weaponskilling at least 80% of the battle, and even then you're hitting Throw to gain TP faster. TERA's combat grows stale very fast. Good as it may be it's incredibly repetitive because the lack of abilities in general. Blade and Soul is far worse with this problem. But hey if mashing a button to hit = fun for you, then go play one of those stale games instead of trying to ruin this one.

Though as I said before, it's telling me what to do, guiding me though the game, just like gw2, rift, wow, any other game you can think of. I bring up ffxi for the reasons I said above, I could care less about the world the music, I just want another game that I can get lost in once again, that's what I'm looking for, and that's why I think FFXIV should be more like FFXI in hopes for that to happen again.

So you want an MMO to get lost in, but the world isn't a factor in that? Cool, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Lets also not forget that mmos now, are single player games with multiplayer aspects.

All of the fucking content in FFXIV right now requires a party. All of it. I cannot just go to hamlet to join in because I need 7 more people. I can't solo Garuda. I can't solo Nael Hard. I cannot solo HNMs. I can't even fucking get into Toto-Rak without getting another person. Where's the singleplayer aspect at?

You have no idea what you're talking about anymore Rokien. Just stop.

You know, I just really fucking hate when people try to tell me that what I find fun, isn't fun because they say so.

The same goes for people who try to tell me that what I find fun isn't. LOL MODERN MMO PLAYERS LOVE THEIR HANDS BEING HELD.

[lordvr]

are still killing mobs, but you have to put in that extra leg work, also they tell you what to kill not you asking, would it be better to kill this or this at my level, what about other areas?

All MMOs with quest hubs have several alternatives for questing areas in each level bracket such that you actually do end up actually making that kind of choice.