SE stop doing the "norm"

[strallaalaa]

Stopped reading there. Playing FFXI doesn't give you some sort of bullshit validity to playing this game. If you don't like the direction it's going, sure, that's fine. But the dev team, and the community decided this game head the direction it is heading long ago. They released the polls and we gave our answers. The community asked for this game.

Also lol at the people saying 1.xx was unique but 2.0 isn't. I guess Tanaka's terrible ideas were what make a game truly unique.

most of tanaka's ideas were great, they were just incomplete and broken. the game failed from lack of content and a broken game not cause of the type of game it was. the problem then was they gave everyone power of voice and reality is it isn't going to help the game. if they really listened to all the people on just forums the game won't last a year.

tanaka. lets see, 16man party grinds, now quests and dungeons will be our meat. total 360 of a mmo.
the polls are like going to a mind reading show or telepathy program or ghosts see'er. you got what you wanted from it, they were vague questions that didn't ask you what you really wanted. it's not like it asked hey do you want casuals to eat a dick or hardcore /vote. they already had a vision for the most part and the questions were irrelevant to it's direction.

also the community? most players play mmo's they don't vote. obviously they still keep going more and more casual so that means companies are still making more money this way from sheer numbers or something. but it's also obvious that the mmo's are dying out much quicker right? not sure what that tells people.

in the end i think ffxiv still has a chance to be great they may 180 sneak attack and make it much more of what ffxi had little by little and that was my only hope. so in the end this will be there last chance at 2.0 to show us they care even a little about the people who have been mmo'ing for something more then just casual play.

[Ruisu]

most of tanaka's ideas were great, they were just incomplete and broken. the game failed from lack of content and a broken game not cause of the type of game it was. the problem then was they gave everyone power of voice and reality is it isn't going to help the game. if they really listened to all the people on just forums the game won't last a year.

No, they were not. His ideas made a lot of games very tedious (Chrono Cross, Xenogears, and obviously FFXI.) While they were good games, they weren't because of his ideas. His ideas are what bogged most of those games down, actually. FFXIV failed for a number of reasons, bad UI, bad design, lack of identity in classes, etc. THM could fucking solo Dodore for christ's sake. Tanaka was also very much against player opinions on something, and that was something that followed from FFXI as well.

"HEY THIS SUCKS FIX IT" No it's working as intended! Why don't you realize my visiooon?!

tanaka. lets see, 16man party grinds, now quests and dungeons will be our meat. total 360 of a mmo.
the polls are like going to a mind reading show or telepathy program or ghosts see'er. you got what you wanted from it, they were vague questions that didn't ask you what you really wanted. it's not like it asked hey do you want casuals to eat a dick or hardcore /vote. they already had a vision for the most part and the questions were irrelevant to it's direction.

Oh boy, 16 people charging onto one crab does not look completely absurd and ridiculous. Also sticking around one small square foot in the entire map as compared to the exploration that questing can give you. and dungeons too. No no no, camping crabs for hours on end is FAR more enjoyable than that.

also the community? most players play mmo's they don't vote. obviously they still keep going more and more casual so that means companies are still making more money this way from sheer numbers or something. but it's also obvious that the mmo's are dying out much quicker right? not sure what that tells people.

Look up the votes from 2011. The community voted for this game to turn out the way it did. Deal with it.

in the end i think ffxiv still has a chance to be great they may 180 sneak attack and make it much more of what ffxi had little by little and that was my only hope. so in the end this will be there last chance at 2.0 to show us they care even a little about the people who have been mmo'ing for something more then just casual play.

They're already bogging XIV down with bad XI ideas, like Level caps. However, yes, they can take great ideas from FFXI as well, but a lot of what people are asking for are asinine time sinks and arbitrary walls like Maat caps.

[Felis]

tanaka. lets see, 16 15 man party leve grinds, now quests and dungeons will be our meat. total 360 of a mmo.

fixed it a bit.
And 15 man full party was terrible. Half of the people didn't get to pull their weapon before the enemy died.