May we have quick clarification regarding the White Ravens (earrings)?

[Zezlar]

serious question:
why lol?

Even the patch notes for the fight said it was not a part of the umbral story and as a result had direct contradictions to it?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ch-1.23a-Notes

It is very much apart of the story. It's just a re-imagining of what happened when the player went to face Darnus. It just doesn't advance the story in any fashion over the current normal version. Doesn't mean it's not part of the Umbral storyline.

[Shougun]

It is very much apart of the story. It's just a re-imagining of what happened when the player went to face Darnus. It just doesn't advance the story in any fashion over the current normal version. Doesn't mean it's not part of the Umbral storyline.

Primals have to do with the story as well. Thats why their easy mode is being removed and changed in the list of removed achievements. But hard mode wasnt enough apparently and the items involved with it are confirmed to be staying.

[Dzian]

As for the White Ravens, Dzian has the best argument for them being in 2.0. Only items removed are related to Umbral right? Well the Hard mode fight isnt related. Just like the hard mode primal fights.

Primals have to do with the story as well. Thats why their easy mode is being removed and changed in the list of removed achievements. But hard mode wasnt enough apparently and the items involved with it are confirmed to be staying.

Thats kinda my point. The hard modes aren't part of the storyline.

[Zezlar]

Primals have to do with the story as well. Thats why their easy mode is being removed and changed in the list of removed achievements. But hard mode wasnt enough apparently and the items involved with it are confirmed to be staying.

but there's a difference between Darnus and Primals. Nael deus Darnus was created solely for the 7th Umbral storyline. The same storyline that is going to essentially be deleted. The primals on the other hand were planned to be used in the main scenario (and Leviathan/Titan were delayed due to the Japanese Earthquake/Tsunami). They never once stated that primals were being removed (summons themselves), and as for the weapons I don't recall any facts specifically stating primal weapons would be removed outside of player speculation. (If you do please link me, and I would happily look it over).

Anywho, i'll look back for that link but I think stating any more of my opinion on the subject would just be beating a dead Chocobo. I don't think it's wrong to believe that they will exist in 2.0, but rather stating I find it highly unlikely.

[Shougun]

but there's a difference between Darnus and Primals. Nael deus Darnus was created solely for the 7th Umbral storyline. The same storyline that is going to essentially be deleted. The primals on the other hand were planned to be used in the main scenario (and Leviathan/Titan were delayed due to the Japanese Earthquake/Tsunami). They never once stated that primals were being removed, and as for the weapons I don't recall any facts specifically stating primal weapons would be removed outside of player speculation. (If you do please link me, and I would happily look it over).

They never stated Nael will be removed either.

And yes player speculation due to the primals relation to Umbral is why some thought them (weapons) to be removed (and the achievements being removed). But same case for Nael, again player speculation. There is just enough evidence for as there is aganist.